Lawyers

[Peter R]

I saw a bloke from the law institute the other night saying that criminals should be treated easy, and that just because a bloke is a career crim. it is no need to treat him any different from a first offender....along those lines.

It is obvious that the law society and the band of rogues that call themselves defenders of the truth would want little or no sentencing on those that commit crime.

The lighter the sentencing, the more will be induced to commit crime, and the more that commit crime, the more money will drop into the lawers pockets getting these louts, touts and layabouts back on the streets in quick time to commit more of the same.:mad:

We do not have Clarence Darrow's in this country, to give eloquent final submissions to juries and judges. Our Bewigged have a much better system, it is called press the politicians vote button.

As a fair number of our politicians are invloved in the legal system somehow or the other it is also obvious that they will look after their mates outside, just in case the pollie is caught in rorting, snorting, or consorting with fellow lawyers.

It is a bad time ahead if the 'justice' system continues to bow to the pressure of these thug protectors.

That is my say!

Peter R.

[craigb]

Yes but do lawyers cook good pancakes?

[bitingmidge]

I know one with a Fender Stratocaster.

P

[beejay1]

As my old grandaddy used to say" hanging's too good for them, what they need is a good kick up the ****!"

beejay1

[DanP]

See signature below.

[ryanarcher]

I love that signiture!

[bitingmidge]

Three hours so far......

Oh, and on the subject of lawyers, here is an excerpt from an actual piece of advice I received yesterday:-

The only outstanding issue on clause XXXX was barring of future Claims, which is a broadly defined term. The clause has now been amended so that it refers to a "claim" rather than a "Claim". For the sake of certainty to ensure that there is no doubt "claim" is not interpreted as "Claim", I propose the following sentence be added: "For the sake of certainty, use of the word "claim" is not to be attributed with the meaning of "Claim" as defined in clause XXX"

Can anyone cast any light on how I can respond???

P
:D :D :D

[silentC]

Yes but it would just come out as one word surrounded by a lot of asterisks... :D

[vsquizz]

Here it is Midge, you don't need all that legal ease, Clear as the Yarra River in full flow:D


claim (klām) http://www.gurunet.com/content/img/pron.gif
tr.v., claimed, claim·ing, claims.

To demand, ask for, or take as one's own or one's due: claim a reward; claim one's luggage at the airport carousel.
To take in a violent manner as if by right: a hurricane that claimed two lives.
To state to be true, especially when open to question; assert or maintain: claimed he had won the race; a candidate claiming many supporters.
To deserve or call for; require: problems that claim her attention.
n.
A demand for something as rightful or due.
A basis for demanding something; a title or right.
Something claimed in a formal or legal manner, especially a tract of public land staked out by a miner or homesteader.

A demand for payment in accordance with an insurance policy or other formal arrangement.
The sum of money demanded.

A statement of something as a fact; an assertion of truth: makes no claim to be a cure.
idiom:

lay claim to To assert one's right to or ownership of.


[Middle English claimen, from Old French clamer, claim-, from Latin clāmāre, to call.]

claim'a·ble adj.
claim'er n. SYNONYMS claim, pretense, pretension, title. These nouns refer to a legitimate or asserted right to demand something as one's due: had a legal claim to the property; makes no pretense to scholarliness; justified pretensions to the presidency; has no title to our thanks. See also synonyms at demand (file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Application%20Data/GuruNet/GuruNetCache/atomicalookup_1555_[D0118100]).

[Sturdee]

Can anyone cast any light on how I can respond???



Quite simple and clear to me provided you tell me the definition of Claim in terms of section xxx.

Must have been written by a tax lawyer. :D :D :D


Peter.

[ryanarcher]

Most people have heard of the darwin awards, but have you heard of the Stella awards? (named after the woman who was awarded 2.9 million US after spilling hot Mcdonalds coffee on herself).



here are some contenders:January 2000: Kathleen Robertson of Austin, Texas, was awarded $780,000 by a jury of her peers after breaking her ankle, tripping over a toddler who was running amuck inside a furniture store. The owners of the store were understandably surprised at the verdict, considering that the misbehaving little fellow was Ms. Robertson's son.



June 1998: 19 year-old Carl Truman of Los Angeles won $74,000 and medical expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Mr. Truman apparently didn't notice there was someone at the wheel of the car when he was trying to steal his neighbor's hubcaps.



October 1998: Terrence Dickson of Bristol, Pa., was leaving a house he had just finished robbing by way of the garage. He was not able to get the garage door to go up, because the automatic door opener was malfunctioning. He couldn't re-enter the house because the door connecting the house and garage locked when he pulled it shut. The family was on vacation. Mr. Dickson found himself locked in the garage for eight days. He subsisted on a case of Pepsi he found in the garage and a large bag of dry dog food. Mr. Dickson sued the homeowner's insurance claiming the situation caused him undue mental anguish. The jury agreed to the tune of a half million dollars.



October 1999: Jerry Williams of Little Rock Arkansas was awarded $14,500 and medical expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his next door neighbor's beagle. The dog was on a chain in its owner's fenced-in yard at the time. Mr. Williams was also in the fenced-in yard. The award was less than sought because the jury felt the dog may have been provoked by Mr. Williams who, at the time, was repeatedly shooting it with a pellet gun.



December 1997: A Philadelphia restaurant was ordered to pay Amber Carson of Lancaster, Pa., $113,500 after she slipped on a soft drink and broke her coccyx. The beverage was on the floor because Ms. Carson threw it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an argument.



December 1997: Kara Walton of Clamont, DE. successfully sued the owner of a night club when she fell from the bathroom window to the floor and knocked out her two front teeth. This occurred while Ms.Walton was trying to sneak through the window in the ladies room to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge. She was awarded $12,000 and dental expenses.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I know this is probably more of a yank disease than Aussie, but since it disgusts me so much I thought I'd share all the same. hope you had a good laugh, :D
-ryan

[doublejay]

Snopes (http://www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp) would appear to question some or all of these incidents?

[bitingmidge]

Quite simple and clear to me provided you tell me the definition of Claim in terms of section xxx.

Must have been written by a tax lawyer. :D :D :D
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Better still:

I emailed him this afternoon and told him I was going to treat his Invoice as an invoice!!!

:D :D :D
P

[echnidna]

BM

Keep us informed what he does about your claim to treat his Invoice as an invoice!!!!!!

[Sturdee]

Better still:

I emailed him this afternoon and told him I was going to treat his Invoice as an invoice!!!

:D :D :D
P

It is not a question of whether it is an Invoice or invoice but whether it is a Tax Invoice or Tax invoice or tax Invoice or tax invoice. :D Better email him and ask for a clarification amendment. :p


Peter.

[ryanarcher]

Doublejay, check out this site: http://www.stellaawards.com/

[Peter R]

Better still:

I emailed him this afternoon and told him I was going to treat his Invoice as an invoice!!!

:D :D :D
PGet Off my post, don't yous blokes know it is illegal to hijack...
Book 'em Danno P :p Not at you Dan, and NotRalph either.

Hey did you see that the career crim that I was talking about is now charged with another robbery. This poor bloke, boy! he must have had a rough childhood, the hood bit being most appropriate.

Even with all the dogodder lawyers this bloke is bound to get a months weekend detention..waddayarekon???

Peter R.

[bitingmidge]

Well!!!!

I NEVER!!!!!

:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p

(was that a Protest or a protest???)

I think I spot the trouble though, he's a career crim. If he'd been a Career Crim, the punishment would probably have been Terrifying!

P
:D

[Sturdee]

Get Off my post, don't yous blokes know it is illegal to hijack...


Or is it Illegal to hijack or Illegal to Hijack or Illegal To Hijack. :D Please be specific or we may have to hire, at your expense, a lawyer to interpret your statement. :p


Peter.

[DanP]

At $300 an hour measured in six minute blocks. :rolleyes:

[fxst]

At $300 an hour measured in six minute blocks. :rolleyes:

plus 10 pancakes starting now :eek:

[gemi_babe]

getting back on topic........ why can't we have chain gangs? We should put the hardened crims to work as slaves for the govt/local councils...

All chained up with the prison guards armed and ready to shoot them if they step out of line http://www.ubeaut.biz/2gunsfiring.gif

[bitingmidge]

getting back on topic........ why can't we have chain gangs? We should put the hardened crims to work as slaves for the govt/local councils...


Because of the change over to metric...oops wrong thread!!

Sorry,

P ;)

[jackiew]

At $300 an hour measured in six minute blocks. :rolleyes:

I recently spoke to someone working in legal offices in Melbourne and he reckoned that they were now doing 3 minute blocks! By the sound of it though if you are a Junior lawyer you have to account to the partners for the length of your toilet breaks.

[Grunt]

length of your toilet breaks.

When I was a consultant I used to charge for toilet breaks. You know "Sit and Think".
We had a timesheet code of 'COCT' for toilet breaks. Crapping On Company Time. :D

[Termite]

When I was a consultant I used to charge for toilet breaks. You know "Sit and Think".
We had a timesheet code of 'COCT' for toilet breaks. Crapping On Company Time. :D
For special work we add 10% FAF. Fook About Factor. :eek: