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Dengue
10th November 2011, 02:33 PM
It took me ages to determine the nice blue colour used on Carbatec machinery, which also closely matches the Metabo machinery. I found out the colour is a powder coating colour RAL 5005.
I tried all the major paint suppliers in Townsville, and found that Dulux is the only one that could supply that colour in water based paint
Details are in the photo below. It is actually an accurate match, although the colouring in the photo is lost as you reduce the size of the image to suit the limits of this forum
dr4g0nfly
11th November 2011, 06:25 AM
I've got to ask, why did you want a 'Water Based Paint' the same colour as Carbatec & Metabo machinery?
I won't stick to the machinery very well!
Dengue
11th November 2011, 09:17 AM
he he he ... it's a girly thing. I am making some plywood rolling cabinets for my shed, and I want to colour co-ordinate them with existing machinery :)
greybeard
11th November 2011, 09:52 AM
or maybe showing ASD tendencies :rolleyes:
NZStu
11th November 2011, 10:43 AM
Do I detect the merest hint of CDO*?
*CDO - like OCD, but with the letters arranged in alphabetical order, like they should be.
ClintO
11th November 2011, 11:51 AM
I find that being part colourblind has saved me a lot of time over the years, something I never appreciated when I was young
ToothFairy
11th November 2011, 12:51 PM
I find that being part colourblind has saved me a lot of time over the years, something I never appreciated when I was young
Apparently partial colour-blindness also makes it harder to see whether things like pictures are "straight". Which means that I save time on most jobs around the house - to start with; then SWMBO stands there saying "up a bit . . . down a bit . . ." Finishes up not saving any time at all! :C
- Michael
Optimark
11th November 2011, 01:00 PM
Wonderful idea, especially the water based bit.
In Germany one can often purchase water based paints that are like a Gel, effectively dripless, splashless, etcetera.
Last year Aldi had some of this German paint on one of their specials, not only was the price extremely low, water based, the gel bit amazed friends when they saw it being used.
Mick.
Woodwould
11th November 2011, 02:27 PM
Wonderful idea, especially the water based bit.
In Germany one can often purchase water based paints that are like a Gel, effectively dripless, splashless, etcetera.
Last year Aldi had some of this German paint on one of their specials, not only was the price extremely low, water based, the gel bit amazed friends when they saw it being used.
Mick.
Have you tried adding a little animal glue to water-based paint to make gel paint?
Optimark
11th November 2011, 09:08 PM
Wouldwood, no, I hadn't thought of that, interesting idea though.
I have a friend who has lots of little bottles and jars of various grades of gelatin for making camera film emulsion, I may give him a telephone and have a discussion about the possibilities.
That stuff is horribly expensive though, perhaps some Aspic would make the paint almost edible:U as well as being far cheaper.
Mick.
dr4g0nfly
13th November 2011, 06:50 AM
perhaps some Aspic would make the paint almost edible:U as well as being far cheaper.
Hmmm, Salmon in Edible Paint, don't see that doing too well down the local restaurant!
Grandad-5
13th November 2011, 10:24 AM
he he he ... it's a girly thing.
Nah, not just a girly thing me thinks.
I regularly visit an American Garage forum. You wouldn't believe the lengths those guys go to to pick "Just" the right shade of colour for their garages.
They have long diiscussions on their colour choice with should they have a stripe on the walls, and should the floor tiles match the walls or contrast it etc etc.
I have to admit some look fantastic and I've been bitten by the bug.
I find myself thinking about colour in my shop refurb.
It needn't cost more to have a working environment that pleases the eye as well as being an efficient place to work.
Now, should you hang curtains on the windows of your shop, that I will agree is a girlie thing. :)
Cheers
Jim
Woodwould
13th November 2011, 10:56 AM
I'm all for it; I've got roses and a lemon tree in my 'shop'.
Dengue
13th November 2011, 05:59 PM
Now, should you hang curtains on the windows of your shop, that I will agree is a girlie thing. :)
Cheers
JimActually Jim, the windows of my shed are covered by curtains.
I am building two rolling cupboards for the thicknesser and the router table, and rather than have them plain old plywood, decided they should be painted.
Could not think of a decent colour, so chose the existing blue on the Carbatec saw and the Metabo thicknesser. Should look good, maybe a bit overwhelming with all that strong German Blue colour :)
Do you think I should soften it with some pastel coloured trim? he he he
Grandad-5
13th November 2011, 06:30 PM
Actually Jim, the windows of my shed are covered by curtains.
Yup, a girlie thing. Oh yeah, you're a girl. So it's all good. :2tsup:
Do you think I should soften it with some pastel coloured trim? he he he
Nah....some nisely finished timber trim. Something light...like maple.
Like I said before, "a working environment that pleases the eye as well as being an efficient place to work."
We definitely need some pics though.
Master Splinter
13th November 2011, 07:09 PM
Here's a listing of the RAL colours
RAL Color Chart | www.RALcolor.com (http://www.ralcolor.com/)
That site has RGB equivalents, which means you can then look at the Dulux paint atlas which lists RGB equivalents to dulux tints Colour Atlas (http://www.dulux.com.au/specifier/colour/colour-atlas), or even this site Colours (http://www.u-do-design.com/187/Colour-Reference.html) which has PMS equivalents, for the print-inclined.
(and the blue is called signal blue by RAL)
Optimark
13th November 2011, 08:26 PM
Master Splinter, are you (or anyone else) able to tell me what RAL stands for?
I know that PMS stands for Pantone Matching System as I've been using that for about 35 years, but until this thread, I have never heard of RAL. Neither has my wife, and she is German, although there are many technical things about Germany and German standards that she is unaware of, which is normal.
Mick.
Dengue
13th November 2011, 09:56 PM
From Wiki pedia :
In 1927 the German Reichsausschuß für Lieferbedingungen und Gütesicherung" (State Commission for Delivery Terms and Quality Assurance) invented a collection of 40 colors under the name of "RAL 840". Prior to that date manufacturers and customers had to exchange samples to describe a tint, whereas from then on they would rely on numbers.
In the 1930s the numbers were changed uniformly to four digits and the collection was renamed to "RAL 840 R" (R for revised). With tints constantly added to the collection, it was revised again in 1961 and changed to "RAL 840-HR", which consists of 210 colors and is in use to this day. In the 1960s the colors were given supplemental names to avoid confusion in case of transposed digits.
As "RAL 840-HR" covered only matte paint the 1980s saw the invention of "RAL 841-GL" for glossy surfaces, limited to 193 colors. A main criterion for colors in the RAL CLASSIC collection is to be of "paramount interest". Therefore most of the colors in it are used on warning and traffic signs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_sign) or are dedicated to government agencies and public services
Optimark
14th November 2011, 10:01 PM
Jill, many thanks, quite interesting. I tried to find out what it stood for, it appears that I was typing in RAL as a stand alone unit, no wonder I couldn't find anything.
Mick.