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Phil Spencer
15th June 2011, 08:39 PM
After having some X Rays I decided to treat Mrs Phil to coffee and cake. Whilst sitting at our table this T%rd (that description is being kind to him and disrespectful to T%rds) he wanted to get past, and, instead of walking around the table he decided to grab Mrs Phil's wheel chair and move it out of the way.

I was half way out of my chair ready to snot him when the LOML stopped me she did not want to attract attention to her self or situation.

There are some really self interested completely ignorant A%holes out there, I really felt like stuffing his testicles down his throat.

Any suggestions how I should handle this situation in the future?

seanz
15th June 2011, 09:02 PM
I think that you don't touch other people's stuff with-out their permission.

But moving someone's wheel-chair, that's just wrong, deeply wrong.

Phil Spencer
15th June 2011, 09:09 PM
I think that you don't touch other people's stuff with-out their permission.

But moving someone's wheel-chair, that's just wrong, deeply wrong.

Thing is the wheel chair is an extension of the person touching the chair without permission is the same as an assault, it is deeply distressing to the person who has to use the chair.

Moe in QLD
15th June 2011, 09:21 PM
I think I'd posting from a jail cell asking how to handle it differently next time

So congrats on the self control

specialist
15th June 2011, 09:51 PM
Better that you didn't handle him, Me and my wife had similar experience, a lady that we hardly knew put her hand in my wifes new hair from chemo, it was positively insulting. But alas, like you, what can you do? What can you say? It seems that common decency has taken a dive bigtime.

Robert

_fly_
15th June 2011, 10:00 PM
Before I comment did you park Mrs Phil in the main walkway into and out of the cafe because it was convenient for you?

Phil Spencer
15th June 2011, 10:23 PM
before i comment did you park mrs phil in the main walkway into and out of the cafe because it was convenient for you?
no!!!

AlexS
15th June 2011, 10:37 PM
You should have quietly and politely explained to him that it would have been more courteous to walk around, that it is quite upsetting for wheelchair-bound people to be moved without warning, that he could have injured himself or your wife by moving her without warning.


But I think the message would get across better if someone had snotted him.

Awkward position to be in though, it's a lose-lose situation for you.

Woodwould
15th June 2011, 11:46 PM
Andy would have leapt up and sorted the bloke out!

http://www.littlebritainlookalikes.co.uk/images/andy_lou_wheelchair.jpg

That was a deplorable act.

A similar thing happened when Mrs. Wood and I were in Bunnings recently; Mrs. Wood was hunkered down getting something from a low shelf and a man in his fifties came up behind me, pushed my wheelchair out of his way (so he could get at something) and rammed Mrs. Wood with the wheelchair in the process. If I'd known he was there, I would have moved myself - I'm always moving to let impatient rectums pass. I corked him in the thigh.

On our previous outing to Bunnies, a very charming elderly Indian couple smiled at me and Mrs. Wood, nodding as if in sympathy and proceeded to pat me on the knee and shoulder!

artme
16th June 2011, 09:25 AM
For years I dealt with disrespectful people who had no consideration for those in wheelchairs. I was a teacher at a special school and the number of times we were shoved aside unceremoniously or were abused because we were too slow, or took up too much room was astounding.

It is hard to deal with and in my position what I wanted to do was not possible. Just wished I wasn't on official duties.

One bugbear I have is with those motorised scooters that some less mobile people use,Too many of them think that they have rights and bugger everyone else.

When we were in Ballina recently a little old lady terrorist was driving one of these on the road. As we came to the roundabout I put the right blinker on and was all but out of the roundabout when she came charging through on my left. Guess who copped a mouthful of abuse?

Phil Spencer
16th June 2011, 10:20 AM
One bugbear I have is with those motorised scooters that some less mobile people use,Too many of them think that they have rights and bugger everyone else.

When we were in Ballina recently a little old lady terrorist was driving one of these on the road. As we came to the roundabout I put the right blinker on and was all but out of the roundabout when she came charging through on my left. Guess who copped a mouthful of abuse?

If one was run down and injured by one of these elderly terrorists, what would happen, do they carry CTP insurance? Would they have the means to pay ones medical bills and compensate for injury?

Woodwould
16th June 2011, 10:53 AM
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I believe all forms of transport that use public roads (the scooter shouldn't have been on the footpath in the first instance) should be registered and taxed – bicycles included.

I also have one of the Red Plastic Chariots and like you, I see many people who use them more through laziness than any real need for them. I see some charioteers speeding around with scant regard for others. Some of them are simply ignoramuses, but I suspect others have degenerated to that level through sheer frustration with the general public's attitude towards them.

I rarely use my chariot (the Melbourne Timber and Working with Wood Show last year was my last outing on it) because I can't handle the way I'm treated when I take it out.

damian
16th June 2011, 10:54 AM
I might have started with verbal abuse before moving onto the violence.

I got moved to the Brisbane CBD in january and rudeness isn't an endangered trait here. Just last night we were waiting in line to board the bus and patiently waiting for an Indian woman to get her pram together, a little Japanese girl jumped the queue and got on ahead of everyone else. And the number of people, particularly women, who put thier bags on the seat beside them and sit in the asle seat when the aisle is full of people standing....

I've given a few earfuls to people in the last 6 months....

Geoff Dean
16th June 2011, 11:05 AM
I'd a belted him, simple as that. Maybe not the best course of action, but the one he deserved.

jimbur
16th June 2011, 11:39 AM
I had crook knee some time back and could only hobble with the aid of a walking stick. Coming up to a crossing I was pushed aside by an impatient pedestrian. A bloke in a wheelchair stopped him and lectured him on his attitude to the disabled.
Cheers,
Jim

Phil Spencer
16th June 2011, 07:57 PM
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I believe all forms of transport that use public roads (the scooter shouldn't have been on the footpath in the first instance) should be registered and taxed – bicycles included.

I also have one of the Red Plastic Chariots and like you, I see many people who use them more through laziness than any real need for them. I see some charioteers speeding around with scant regard for others. Some of them are simply ignoramuses, but I suspect others have degenerated to that level through sheer frustration with the general public's attitude towards them.

I rarely use my chariot (the Melbourne Timber and Working with Wood Show last year was my last outing on it) because I can't handle the way I'm treated when I take it out.

My 85 year old farther was recently pulled up by Plod for speeding on his scooter, I would hate to think what would happen if he had hit some one, apart from the injury he would have needed to sell his house to pay for the medical expenses and compensation.

corbs
16th June 2011, 08:00 PM
If I were involved there would have been a scene, if the individual showed they were inclined towards making the scene physical then I would be more than happy to oblige on that front too:wink:

I have two rules;
1. Never hit first
2. Always hit second

Bushmiller
17th June 2011, 08:47 PM
Whilst sitting at our table this T%rd (that description is being kind to him and disrespectful to T%rds) he wanted to get past, and, instead of walking around the table he decided to grab Mrs Phil's wheel chair and move it out of the way.

Any suggestions how I should handle this situation in the future?

Really hard to handle:((. Blood boiling stuff:~.

This guy had a solution to rudness. Cool, calm and collected:cool:!

Snubbed Turnstile Man Gets Revenge - Jokeroo (http://www.jokeroo.com/videos/fail/man-gets-revenge.html)

Regards
Paul