red backs in fence and shed

[macklin]

I am starting to find a lot of redbacks in my metal shed, thought about the mortein mist spray cans, but not sure if they are only for fleas and roaches.

The next door neighbours grass is higher than the metal fence and the fence is about 6ft high, do you think they are coming from there.

Anyway the amount of redbacks is no longer funny, and I certainly dont want them coming inside the house.

Any suggestions, I know I can get an exterminator in but I cannot afford it, also I rent the property.

Thank You

John macklin

[Harry72]

Red backs dont hang about in the grass thats why they like your shed.
They are tough little buggers so common fly spray doesn't always knock them down go for the high strength gear thats a surface spray so it sticks to them.

[cookie48]

Try those bombs you can get in woolies etc. Work in my shed for most things. Not sure about redacks tho. Look out in the loo tho.

[RETIRED]

YouTube - Wayne Horsburgh - Redback on the Toilet Seat

[CJR72]

Try those bombs you can get in woolies etc. Work in my shed for most things. Not sure about redacks tho. Look out in the loo tho.
When i was renting thats all i ever used with success or you can buy some real nasty poison from the hardware store and mix it with water and spray it about ,sometimes i mix it with diesel to make it last longer when spraying around wood:2tsup:

[Grommett]

Thanks , ever the sensitive soul. Actually redbacks are not that dangerous, they have small mouthparts and are not aggressive. Normal insecticide/surface spray should be enough. They like dark covered spaces, so (I am sorry for this but) LET THE SUNSHINE IN (my hippy moment).

[macklin]

Thanks for your replies

CJR72 What is the name of the poison you mentioned from the hardware store OR Bunnings possibly

Thank You

JM

[I_wanna_Shed]

Does anyone know if these bomb sprays affect timber in any way?

Sorry to get off topic John, but I don't spose anyone knows if there's a better way than mouse traps to rid a colony of mice in the shed? I'm hesitant to use baits in case our dog comes across a poisoned mouse - she would eat it.

Cheers,
Nathan.

[snowyskiesau]

This is probably no help whatsoever with your problem, but ...

I used to have a lot of redbacks in my garden shed, always finding them on the mower or any garden tool I picked up. Then one day I started to notice a few daddy longlegs taking up residence. Within a short time, the redbacks for all gone.
Not sure if the daddy longlegs ate the redbacks or if the redbacks just felt the neighbourhood had gone to hell and moved out.
:)

[fxst]

A bit of petrol, a match and mice are gone. Well so is the shed but you didn't say you wanted to keep it. :D
I think there is a bait that is safe for cats and dogs if they eat a mouse killed by it but not sure of the name now. :? It also got them to go out of the walls to find a drink so no smells in the house etc.:2tsup:
Cheers
Pete

[Grommett]

Does anyone know if these bomb sprays affect timber in any way?

Sorry to get off topic John, but I don't spose anyone knows if there's a better way than mouse traps to rid a colony of mice in the shed? I'm hesitant to use baits in case our dog comes across a poisoned mouse - she would eat it.

Cheers,
Nathan.

I am assured that dead mice are not an issue for dogs. The poison is an anticoagulant, by the time it has knocked off the rodent its ok for the next predator in line. But make sure the dishlickers cannot get to it. I have made up some rat cafes, boxes with narrow openings, mice/rats can get in but the gromett (my dog) cannot.

[CJR72]

Thanks for your replies

CJR72 What is the name of the poison you mentioned from the hardware store OR Bunnings possibly

Thank You

JM
The stuff is made by ChemReco and its called TERMINANT,it does ants termites and spiders ,i buy mine from Home hardware:2tsup:



Does anyone know if these bomb sprays affect timber in any way?

Sorry to get off topic John, but I don't spose anyone knows if there's a better way than mouse traps to rid a colony of mice in the shed? I'm hesitant to use baits in case our dog comes across a poisoned mouse - she would eat it.

Cheers,
Nathan.
While i was down in the shed i also found the name of the mouse baits i use which are not going to harm your dog ,its a BAYER product called RACUMIN,lately i been using those little wire mesh traps where they go in for a feed but cant get out,then i just drown them in a bucket ,stoppes the stinkin buggers dying in walls and hard to get at places:2tsup:

[Bob38S]

Mortein Black surface spray - works well on spiders

- also works extremely well on the black wasps which build stringy nest in the bushes I need to trim - to find where they are, lightly bang the bushes with the back of the large plastic rake, look for the cloud or singles of wasps then spray, find the strings and spray them also, the wasps virtually drop as soon as sprayed.

[q9]

When I rented I just called the agent, and they got it sprayed at the landlords expense.

Still, Ficam W if you can get your hands on it...

[Tubbster]

Spray surface spray on walls and any carpet you have in shed, any nooks & crannies where it is always dark, for outside cislin 25 is a good insectide as is Moxthopr & Country which both have Bipanthian as an active, spray on trees/shrubs, shed/house walls etc very effective.
Line your shed, my 25' x 40' shed is fully insulated & lined with MDF, so cutting out most areas spiders love to build their webs, think I found 5 live spiders in my shed all summer, found plenty of dead ones on floor after coming into contact with surface spray.
Hope this helps.

[macklin]

Thank you all for your help, have taken note of all replies. I set off 3 mortein flea bombs, will see how it goes and then progress thro the above lists.

Thank You

John macklin

[groverwa]

This is probably no help whatsoever with your problem, but ...

I used to have a lot of redbacks in my garden shed, always finding them on the mower or any garden tool I picked up. Then one day I started to notice a few daddy longlegs taking up residence. Within a short time, the redbacks for all gone.
Not sure if the daddy longlegs ate the redbacks or if the redbacks just felt the neighbourhood had gone to hell and moved out.
:)

My son was working at a mine site up north in WA and the dongas etc were sprayed for spiders. Did a good job for a short time but red back spiders populated the place until they imported daddy long legs back into the site and the red back spiders were killed by the daddy long legs.

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The daddy long legs can not bite us as their mouth/ fangs are small but the female red back spiders can inflict a very dangerous bite, especially to children and the anti venom can be nearly as bad as the red back venom. My youngest got bitten years ago and had to have constant supervision by a nurse for about 24 hours because of the above mentioned anti venom treatment.

On a lighter note- ensure that you do not reincarnate as a male red back spider beause the Redback spider is one of few arachnids which display sexual cannibalism (http://www.woodworkforums.com/wiki/Sexual_cannibalism) while mating:o

[bsrlee]

The 'Roach Bomb' devices - usually come 3 cans in a card wrapper - are just a can of Butane. When you push the knob in, you get a 'spray' of vapourizing butane out the top. Some of them claim to have extra goodies to stop eggs hatching but for cockies a second go 14 days later is just as good for the eggs & it also gets any that have moved in.

These things work by suffocating EVERYTHING in the closed space, not by a residual 'poison'. So they also work on spiders, wasps, mice, rats, people. The other thing to note is the 'turn off all electrical appliances' warning - butane is flammable, and in the right concentration, explosive. See Mythbusters on what not to do.

My method is to use 1 can per 'room', starting in the morning. Lay them out, open all cupboards & close all windows. Starting at the furthest corner of the house from the front door, start each can going. Leave the house, have a nice day out wandering, lunch, shopping etc. Come home & open up the house - the gas dissapates in about 4 hours from the start time & does not stink the place out or stain wood, curtains etc. Some brands are better than others, I've used Mortein with success.

[Poppa]

I've found the Mortein surface spray works fine for redbacks. Daddy long legs kill other spiders, so importing them into your shed will probably get rid of the redbacks too, but the Mortein will kill them as well. Mortein does not work on funnel webs - just makes them mad. Funnel webs are far worse than redbacks - more aggressive and more poisonous - and much harder to kill. Petrol and a match works on funnel webs, but is not good for sheds...

[hughie]

I found when I turned alot of Camphor nothing much wanted to come into the shed. :2tsup: