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Claw Hama
7th December 2010, 04:12 PM
They were just saying on the radio that the Chinese apples go on sale soon:((.
Our weak as p!$$ and brainless government won't keep them out or put enough duty on them to protect our own industry but that doesn't mean we have to buy them.
I for one will them them rot on the shelf:~.
Support our Australian industries and only buy Australain products where ever possible:2tsup:. Tell your friends, email, phone etc why have our people put out of work and business for the sake of a few cheap and probably toxic apples:no:

Scribbly Gum
7th December 2010, 05:51 PM
Hmm CH, how will we know a Chinese apple if we see one?
Is fruit from overseas labelled?
Puzzled
SG

jimbur
7th December 2010, 06:03 PM
Chinese apples - that is just bloody silly.
Jim

Big Shed
7th December 2010, 06:05 PM
Any sillier than NZ apples?

The govt has fought that long and hard to no avail:(, despite threat of fire blight to Oz orchards.

WTO will prevail.

Claw Hama
7th December 2010, 07:06 PM
WTO can bring them in but we don't have to buy them. If we don't buy them it will not be worth while for them to bring them in. Easy. I wouldn't mind the NZ apples so much as they are almost another state but they have the fire blight so keep them out too.

Yes I think the origin of the fruit these days has to be on the item, like fish etc.

Big Shed
7th December 2010, 07:11 PM
You might be fighting a lost battle here CH, frozen orange juice from Brazil (while our oranges are going in to landfill, prawns from Thailand, fish from Vietnam..............

The list is endless.

I do however agree with your sentiments, but I'm afraid the horse has well and truly bolted.

snowyskiesau
7th December 2010, 07:17 PM
In NSW all fresh produce is supposed to be labelled with country of origin.

Might not stop them getting here but at least if you know where the apples are from, you can avoid buying them.

It is getting harder to find local produce. I for one would gladly pay a bit more for the local product.

Claw Hama
7th December 2010, 07:21 PM
:aussie5:Yes but go down fighting, I buy local prawns and fruit too. It takes me twice as long to shop because I read every lablel and research brands etc. Because, you never know, the next job or business to go to and O/S product might be yours. Also I am sure you and I can't aford to pay more tax when the apple pickers and packers have to go on unemployment benifits either. Go down fighting:boxing:

Enfield Guy
10th December 2010, 07:21 AM
It's getting harder and harder to find Aussie products made by Aussie companies these days. Take simple daily necessities like soap and toothpaste. The vast majority are made by global corporates that don't give a fat rats ****. I generally shop on the lower shelves where you often find the Aussie made products at sometimes lower prices. As an example, Country Life soap is made by Campbells I believe. Most times cheaper than the name brands, does the job as well as any other, and is often cheaper. Same for toothpaste. To my knowledge, correct me if I am wrong, Cedal is the only brand that is made by an Aussie company.

Take the time, look hard, spend the money and buy the aussie product. Send the Chinese apples back from whence they came. Same for the NZ apples.

Cheers

The Bleeder
10th December 2010, 07:43 AM
Do destructive testing on all of them for their toxicity levels. That way none of them will make it to our shelves.

Claw Hama
10th December 2010, 07:47 AM
Thats right EG, Cedel, I use Priya soap (http://www.priyasoap.com.au) like you say look around the lower sheves and have a good read of the pack. Check out their web sites etc.

SAY NO TO IMPORTED APPLES and other fruit and veg, we can grow them all here.

Bob38S
13th December 2010, 12:19 PM
Have to agree re the apples - If their care with baby formula, paint on kids toys etc can be taken as any kind of indicator - I wonder what the apples may have been treated with.

Buy local/national where you can - you'll be buying your kid a job.

Last year I had a discussion [I didn't really think it was all that loud - all of those around me had no problem hearing at all] with a "fresh food person" with regards the selling of Vietnamese peanuts especially when we live less than 3 hours from Kingaroy - the peanut capital of the world - I know it probably did no good but I felt better and the other customers were at least made aware of the fact.

Claw Hama
13th December 2010, 12:44 PM
If a few of us make some noise hopefully some of the others will hear to:2tsup:

Christos
13th December 2010, 09:50 PM
Always good to support the local products especially with fruit and veg.

Sebastiaan56
14th December 2010, 07:01 AM
How long before we become a net importer of food? This is a load of cobblers,

Buy local, buy fresh!

kiwigeo
16th December 2010, 06:28 PM
It's all very well going on about supporting local products but until you change the mind set of the average Aussie shopper you're not going to get anywhere.

Mr and Mrs average Aussie shopper don't give a toss about where their apples are coming from...you see they're only interested in one thing...the price.

And before you get stuck into me.....for the record I buy local produce if I can even if it means paying more.

nihilism
16th December 2010, 07:10 PM
The thing i don't understand is if you ask almost anyone (born here australians anyway) they agree that buying local is the right thing to do especially when it comes to fresh food, but if that's the case why do we end up in this situation where this stuff is imported in the first place?

It's up to everyone to buy local produce otherwise we will get more and more imported crap on the shelfs until we don't have a choice anymore.

Claw Hama
16th December 2010, 07:16 PM
A lot of people say they want local but I think a lot don't look to see what they are buying or like you say the dollar rules. Buying the cheapest can still cost you money in tax when we have to put more people on welfare.

kiwigeo
16th December 2010, 08:18 PM
The thing i don't understand is if you ask almost anyone (born here australians anyway).....

Ahem.....I wasn't born here :((

kiwigeo
16th December 2010, 08:20 PM
....why do we end up in this situation where this stuff is imported in the first place?



Because there is a demand for the stuff. Like I've already pointed out average Joe shopper is looking for the lowest price. It's why Cheap as Chips and the countless other shops selling cheap generally poor quality overseas made cr*p are flourishing.

jimbur
17th December 2010, 08:49 AM
I suspect it's also a weapon to use against local growers. We can stock our shelves cheaper from China so you'd better drop your prices. Eventually the local growers don't have enough margin to cover them during hard times and end up going broke.
Cheers,
Jim

Bob38S
17th December 2010, 09:50 AM
I suspect it's also a weapon to use against local growers. We can stock our shelves cheaper from China so you'd better drop your prices. Eventually the local growers don't have enough margin to cover them during hard times and end up going broke.
Cheers,
Jim

I suspect you are 110% correct - especially as with the 2 majors and some minors dominating the market it becomes a sell it to me at my price or go broke.

Claw Hama
17th December 2010, 11:21 AM
Only if we buy them. Spread the word.

jimbur
25th December 2010, 09:36 PM
Noticed Chinese pears in Woolies yesterday (24th) but there didn't seem to be anyone buying. Hope it stays that way.
Cheers,
Jim

Claw Hama
25th December 2010, 10:43 PM
Good, its time Australians supported each other:2tsup:

Fuzzie
26th December 2010, 07:31 AM
I suspect it's also a weapon to use against local growers. We can stock our shelves cheaper from China so you'd better drop your prices. Eventually the local growers don't have enough margin to cover them during hard times and end up going broke.
Cheers,
Jim

This has been going on for years. A lot of the good fruit growing areas have already had the orchards torn out and been turned into residential estates because the growers couldn't make any money. The current local growers are largely based in marginal areas and with the odd weather we have been having lately crop losses have been high.

Combine the pressures of wholesaler buyers dictating low prices and the public's desire to have access to all types of fruit at all times of the year, instead of being content to live with seasonal variety, and you get to the current situation where cost and availability outweighs the preference for local product.

When was the last time you heard Tasmania referred to as the Apple Isle?

Bob38S
26th December 2010, 01:22 PM
Others may know - I didn't - apparently apple juice marked as consisting of local and imported product is actually concentrate from China [imported product] and mixed with water from Australia [local product] - no wonder the retailers are paranoid about the consumers finding out the real compositions and country of origin labelling.

Renember - buy local and buy your kid a job - it may be a little more expensive but it beats the dole que.