help with hallmark on table

[tillysfurniture]

Hi! I am new to this forum. But I do need some help.

I am in the process of restoring an Art Deco hall table ... cedar. I thought that a hole in the pedestal had been filled with bog! But on careful inspection discovered that there is actually a raised piece of wood. The pedestal is one piece of wood, so the raised small square of wood appears to have been left for a purpose. The raised section is less than a centimetre square. In the middle of the square there is an indentation that looks a bit like an apple.

I am aware that some furniture makers leave their mark in some form or other. Has anyone seen this "mark" on furniture????? I am more than curious!

Thanks in advace:U

[tillysfurniture]

Posting to my own post! You can see I am new to this. But please... even if you have not seen similar marks on furniture please let me know. It would give me an idea if this is a common practice or not. I do know that a maker in the UK used a carved mouse as his mark. His name??? Forgotten, but have seen his furniture on the "Antiques Roadshow".

Thanks heaps in advance.:2tsup:

[Manuka Jock]

We can't see what you are talking about :U

[tillysfurniture]

OK Jock,:rolleyes: but you could "visualise" using my description? You are right though .... I shall try to get a pic to post! Thanks for your reply.

[Manuka Jock]

How could we 'visualize' , based on your description ?
You don't even know what you are looking at .
You do not tell us where the raised small square of wood that is less than a centimetre square. and has an indentation that looks a bit like an apple is , other that being somewhere on the pedestal .
Is it on the top , the bottom , one of the the sides ? . Is the mark machined , stamped , carved , incised ?
A photograph is the first thing that should get posted , not the last .
There are some very knowledgeable furniture people on here , and you wonder why they did not reply to your first post ....... :U

[tillysfurniture]

You are absolutely RIGHT. I hope to have a pic tomorrow.:-

[Manuka Jock]

:2tsup: , the furniture people may be able to identify you piece then.
I'll be interested to see what they make of it too :)

cheers ,
Jock

[Woodwould]

Unless the table is made of precious metal, it won't have a hallmark. :q

[tillysfurniture]

Perfectly correct Woodwould! But I have no idea what to call it other than a "hallmark" or "makers mark". Do you have a more prefessionally informed term??? Would be happy to know it.

[Woodwould]

Perhaps a maker's mark, maker's label or trade label, depending on it's format.

[tillysfurniture]

Copy that ! Cheers from a more informed Tills.

[Manuka Jock]

Tilly , you were on the mark with 'makers mark' already
It was not you who introduced the term 'hall mark ' to this thread . :U



""I am aware that some furniture makers leave their mark in some form or other. Has anyone seen this "mark" on furniture?
""

""... a maker in the UK used a carved mouse as his mark...""

[Woodwould]

It was not you who introduced the term 'hall mark ' to this thread . :U
The thread is titled "help with hallmark on table".

[Manuka Jock]

The thread is titled "help with hallmark on table".
Yep , but the first two posts clarified that ......:)

Tills,
many of us make a blue with the tread title. The bugga of it is , is that we cannot edit or correct it :-

Its' not a thing to worry about tho , the thread tells the real story :2tsup:

[Woodwould]

Yep , but the first two posts clarified that ......:)
I'll bet there are more than a few donkeys down your way that are minus their hind legs.

[Manuka Jock]

I'll bet there are more than a few donkeys down your way that are minus their hind legs.
You would lose ..... I have yet to see a donky here :p .

[tillysfurniture]

Jock is just being kind to this very unprofessional restorer! Thanks Jock... waiting for photo, Tills.

[Manuka Jock]

Jock is just being kind to this very unprofessional restorer! Thanks Jock... waiting for photo, Tills.
No worries lass :)

[tillysfurniture]

I am still trying to attach a photo for all to see. But how on earth to do it??? This programme demands a URL... I am too stupid for that one! Sorry. Shall wait until I can find someone who knows more about it than me, then post a new thread. Thanks anyway.. Tills

[Big Shed]

http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/posting-pictures-your-post-78760/

[Woodwould]

Tills, when you're posting a message, scroll down and you'll see a button "Manage Attachments". Click the button and a new window will open. At the top LH side of the page are a series of text boxes with the heading "Upload File from your Computer". Click on one of the buttons marked "Browse" and navigate to the image on your 'puter that you wish to upload, then click the "Upload" button on the RH side of the page. Some clunking and whirring will occur and then an announcement will appear to the efect that the file has been uploaded. You can then close that window and the image will be attached to your post.

[Woodwould]

Beaten by a Big Shed!

[tillysfurniture]

You guys are great. I shall explore tomorrow! Wood, would that I was better than BS on the PC!!! (Pun intended!)

[tillysfurniture]

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[tillysfurniture]

Sorry to have taken so long but I got stubborn and finally managed it.

The pedestal is 50 cm tall and the mark is approx 30cm above the base of the pedestal. There are four feet that support the pedestal, which has 8 sides. The mark is on the back of the little table. How do I know this? Because the top overhangs in the front but not at the back. Best description is "hall table", art deco. It is hardly a thing of beauty but I love its style. So solidly made that it was not put together by a beginner. Entirely made of cedar, and in a dreadful state when I got it. "Patina" did not exist... merely ruin! So I stripped it and just waxed it.

From the pic you can see the heart shape but it is difficult to see what looks like an apple stem on the top of the heart. So, who can solve my mystery????