Irritations - dump here thread

[Blue-deviled]

Also shown on the news last night was a banner in the crowd at the football yesterday that read: DIDAK YOUR MY HERO. Utter imbecile!

Your optimism is refreshing, sir!

[Blue-deviled]

Thanks for the reminder – Olympics (and the Commonwealth Games and any other athletic or ball sports that dominate the media and the majority of conversation).

Golfers being referred to as 'athletes'.

[Manuka Jock]

Sawhorse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawhorse)

Exactly . I'd hate to have to sit on one of wikipedia's spikey stools :U

[Woodwould]

Golfers being referred to as 'athletes'.
No, golf is a sedentary ball sport, once described by Mark Twain as "a good walk spoiled".

[Chief Tiff]

No, golf is a sedentary ball sport, once described by Mark Twain as "a good walk spoiled".

Similarly, lawn bowls. Often described as "old men's marbles."

(My apologies to any Obtuse Male Members of the Heiroglyphic Generation)

[joe greiner]

Sawbuck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawbuck)

Cheers,
Joe

[Manuka Jock]

Yep , thats it Joe
Saw buck , Bucking horse , Saw horse. :)

[Avery]

All of those cleaners, wipes, mouth washes, soaps, detergents etc etc. etc that kill 99% of household germs.

It's the other 1% of the little bastards that I want to get.

[RETIRED]

Asking for trouble if you use that design:D


Exactly . I'd hate to have to sit on one of wikipedia's spikey stools :U


Yep , thats it Joe
Saw buck , Bucking horse , Saw horse. :)It was the definition I was interested in.

A sawbuck is a definite type of "horse" Used for holding odd shaped logs whereas a saw horse is used as a trestle for cutting prepared timber.

If you really want to go back in history the "horse" got its name from copper smiths and leather workers who used it for securing work.

Some carvers also use a derivative.

[Manuka Jock]

It was the definition I was interested in.

A sawbuck is a definite type of "horse" Used for holding odd shaped logs whereas a saw horse is used as a trestle for cutting prepared timber.

If you really want to go back in history the "horse" got its name from copper smiths and leather workers who used it for securing work.

Some carvers also use a derivative.

And how many of those 'horses' were flat topped ?
None

[weisyboy]

the horses wouold been saw after holding down bits of leather and coper all day, and then being ridden home.

[Manuka Jock]

true , and then it would have had a vice like stitch :U

[weisyboy]

if ya want a jaw horse you turn it on its back.

[RETIRED]

And how many of those 'horses' were flat topped ?
NoneAll of them.

[Manuka Jock]

All of them.

Even the ones with the stitching vice on ? If they had the vice then they were work horses
If they did not have that then they were merely seats.
We are not discussing seats here.

[RETIRED]

They were still called horses.

We will always disagree so I see no sense in arguing over it.

[pugwash]

What irritates me are those horrible plastic bubble packets that you can't get into. (There is a special tool you can buy at Bunnies to cut them open. Guess what type of packet the tool comes in?.... Correct!)

[kiwigeo]

People who refer to everyone from the UK as 'Whinging Poms' and then proceed to whinge about everything.....

So you're whinging about people who whinge about whingers???? :D

[pugwash]

I nearly forgot the three words I hate the most.


READY TO ASSEMBLE

[kiwigeo]

What irritates me are those horrible plastic bubble packets that you can't get into. (There is a special tool you can buy at Bunnies to cut them open. Guess what type of packet the tool comes in?.... Correct!)

ROFL

I hate the bubble packed milk they give you on Qantas flights. They've been packed at atmospheric pressure so when you open them at 30000 feet the top is bulging and when you tear it off the milk sprays everywhere.

And while were bagging Qantas...theyve cut back on the crackers you get with your meal. You used to get 3 crackers and a big lump of cheese...now its two crackers and the same amount of cheese. You end up with cheese left over and no cracker to put it on....thats just unacceptable.

And the Qantas coffee?.....it tastes like the hosties have filtered it through their pantihose.

[Manuka Jock]

They were still called horses.

We will always disagree so I see no sense in arguing over it.

I posted the comment , You contested it ( if your input could be called that ) .
You then clutched at straws , by introducing straw , in the form of leather workers equipment and coppersmiths equipment. Once again it failed .

So 'we' are not arguing , You are .

[cultana]

And the Qantas coffee?.....it tastes like the hosties have filtered it through their pantihose.

:roflmao:
Kinky type are you !!!

I will take you word on this, don't think its my cup of coffee...

[kiwigeo]

So 'we' are not arguing , You are .

So let me just get this straight...we have two people having an argument but only one of them is arguing.....??? :argue:

[Manuka Jock]

So let me just get this straight...we have two people having an argument but only one of them is arguing.....??? :argue:

Let me set you straight .
One person posted . The other person argued .


Got it ?

[AUSSIE]

Let me set you straight .
One person posted . The other person argued .


Got it ?
I have had a good sleep-You havent and you are still sinking in that quick sand over there Jock .Bet you wished you never posted the thing about saw bottoms
or what ever it was:harhar:

[kiwigeo]

Let me set you straight .
One person posted . The other person argued .

Got it ?

Not really.

If one person is arguing then by logic he/she is invoved in an argument. Unless he/she is arguing with him/herself then by definition be at least one more person involved in the argument.

Isnt it rather late in Otepoti?

[Manuka Jock]

I have had a good sleep-You havent and you are still sinking in that quick sand over there Jock .Bet you wished you never posted the thing about saw bottoms ar what ever it was:harhar:
I have no problem at all with the facts that I posted.

The same cannot be said for the character that tried and lost , so then tried again by imtroducing equipment from other trades. He lost that one too :rolleyes:

Some folks may have sore bottoms from sitting on those sharp things poking up from sawhorses. If they sat on sawstools , that would not happen :D

[Manuka Jock]

Not really.

If one person is arguing then by logic he/she is invoved in an argument. Unless he/she is arguing with him/herself then by definition be at least one more person involved in the argument.

Isnt it rather late in Otepoti?

I am not arguing . I have no need to .
Nor did I have any need to introduce straw. The argumentative one did that .

[kiwigeo]

YouTube - ‪Monty Python - Argument Clinic‬‎

[artme]

The pronunciation of "aitch" as "haitch".

[Woodwould]

Angry little men!

[Grumpy John]

Let me set you straight .
One person posted . The other person argued .


Got it ?


:flog:

[damian]

Bluddy right handed people coming to work on my desk and moving everything around :(( The other one is when an unnamed loved one makes me a coffee in a travel mug and turns the handle 180 degrees from where it should be...... Bluddy right handederers....

At last something we can agree on :D

[Manuka Jock]

:flog:

Yes you are right . They are .
They would be better of if they spent their time educating themselves rather than arguing , but such is the way of some folk .

stool [stuːl]
n 1. (Fine Arts & Visual Arts / Furniture) a backless seat or footrest consisting of a small flat piece of wood, etc., resting on three or four legs, a pedestal, etc.

stool - definition of stool by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/stool)

Its not too difficult to understand is it .
They just cannot be taught and so they must argue with the truth.
Sad eh.

[metester]

Trying to buy some petrol and being asked to buy 3 chocolates for the price of 2, 4 packets of chewing gum, toy cars arghhhh...I just want petrol!

[underfoot]

Fundamentalists....of all flavours

[jimbur]

Fundamentalists....of all flavours

You've had an exciting life. I've never tried to eat them myself.:D

[Allan at Wallan]

Surprised no one has mentioned newspapers being delivered
by people who insist on throwing them on to your property. Ninety-nine percent
of the time it rolls under a bush which makes it hard to see and
harder still to retrieve.

The time taken to get it is exceeded only by the time taken to
find the starting point of the wrap around plastic that protects it.

Allan

[Grumpy John]

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Yes you are right . They are .
They would be better of if they spent their time educating themselves rather than arguing , but such is the way of some folk .

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n 1. (Fine Arts & Visual Arts / Furniture) a backless seat or footrest consisting of a small flat piece of wood, etc., resting on three or four legs, a pedestal, etc.

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Its not too difficult to understand is it .
They just cannot be taught and so they must argue with the truth.
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From the source that you're so keen to quote from Jock:
Saw horse - encyclopedia article about Saw horse. (http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Saw+horse)

Seems to back up 's definition.

[AUSSIE]

Hey Jock,
Forget that stool you dropped-
Is your nick name HONEY
I am LOL Have a look
HERE (http://www.manukahoneyaustralia.com/):brava:roflmao2:

[Manuka Jock]

Transcript of post #134


What part of the word stool do you not understand ?

[Big Shed]

Surprised no one has mentioned newspapers being delivered
by people who insist on throwing them on to your property. Ninety-nine percent
of the time it rolls under a bush which makes it hard to see and
harder still to retrieve.

The time taken to get it is exceeded only by the time taken to
find the starting point of the wrap around plastic that protects it.

Allan

Oh well Allan, we all have our little crosses to bear, I need to drive 15k to the nearest store to get a newspaper, so the nearest bush doesn't sound so bad.:no:

One advantage of getting it from the store is that you don't have to remove the plastic wrap though.:2tsup:

[Manuka Jock]

Hey Jock,
Forget that stool you dropped-
Is your nick name HONEY
I am LOL Have a look
HERE (http://www.manukahoneyaustralia.com/):brava:roflmao2:

Stupid is as stupid does eh .

I dropped no stool . Where do you get that idea ?

[AUSSIE]

Stupid is as stupid does eh .

I dropped no stool . Where do you get that idea ?
I thought you would know what another meaning for stool was.
I sent some info in a PM:D:D

[tea lady]

I use a milk crate to saw on.:D

[Manuka Jock]

I thought you would know what another meaning for stool was.
I sent some info in a PM:D:D

As I said in the reply to your PM ,

"Has it not occurred to you how the word 'stool ' , the full term being 'stool sample' came to be used as a euphemism for (Human) feces ?

Research is a marvelous thing . Try it some time. "

[underfoot]

I use a milk crate to saw on.:D
careful now TL...OH+S will be around soon.
I'm certain there's a section in the act that covers "sawing on milk crates":rolleyes:

cause there's one on extension cords on the floor that I got picked up on :?
( where else are extension cords supposed to go?)

[snowyskiesau]

People who walk their dogs on those thin, near invisible, wind out leashes and then complain when you get tangled in them. As if it's my place to watch out where their stupid dog walks!

[Manuka Jock]

careful now TL...OH+S will be around soon.
I'm certain there's a section in the act that covers "sawing on milk crates":rolleyes:

cause there's one on extension cords on the floor that I got picked up on :?
( where else are extension cords supposed to go?)

Strung from the step ladders that are no longer allowed to be used as work platforms :((



what if the hokey pokey is really what it's all about?
It is when it comes to ice cream :p<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

[nihilism]

People who leave their car parked at the diesel bowser while they go into the shop to do thwir weekly grocery shopping while the driveway fills up with cars waiting.

People who park at the only bowser that has diesel to get petrol when the other spaces are empty.

[nihilism]

careful now TL...OH+S will be around soon.
I'm certain there's a section in the act that covers "sawing on milk crates":rolleyes:

cause there's one on extension cords on the floor that I got picked up on :?
( where else are extension cords supposed to go?)

Hung up on the tops of doors and various other items, anyware between neck and ankle height so that other workers can't avoid them.

I saw a plasterer once that had a "step ladder" made from 3 milk crates cable tided together. I thought it was great, at least he didn't pinch my ladder every time i turned around like most of them do.

[weisyboy]

push bike riders that dont move over to let you past.

push bike riders that dont follow road rules.

push bike riders that jump up on teh footpath when the light is red.

push bike riders that ride up teh middle at red lights then sit in front of you and take half an hour to start off.

push bike riders that lean on your car so tehy dot have to take there feet off the pedals.

push bike riders that ride 2 and 3 abrest so u can not possibly pass them.

push bike riders.

[snowyskiesau]

push bike riders who ride on the footpath and expect pedestrians to get out of their way.

[Blue-deviled]

Angry little men!

I thought leprechauns were meant to be jolly?

[Blue-deviled]

push bike riders who ride on the footpath and expect pedestrians to get out of their way.

I'm also against cars being driven on footpaths, and their drivers expecting you to get out of their way (bicycle envy, methinks).

[nihilism]

push bike riders that dont move over to let you past.

push bike riders that dont follow road rules.

push bike riders that jump up on teh footpath when the light is red.

push bike riders that ride up teh middle at red lights then sit in front of you and take half an hour to start off.

push bike riders that lean on your car so tehy dot have to take there feet off the pedals.

push bike riders that ride 2 and 3 abrest so u can not possibly pass them.

push bike riders.

push bike riders that ride on the road and run red lights.

push bike riders that ride across bridges clearly sign posted "pedestrians and bicycles prohibited".

push bike riders (bike couriers) that break the road rules then ride up malls to avaid the police.

[Woodwould]

I thought leprechauns were meant to be jolly?
Well that illustrates perfectly just what can happen when you think.

[Gingermick]

push bike riders that ride 2 and 3 abrest so u can not possibly pass them without running them over and potentinally killing them.
How @#^!^& arrogant is it. Those idiots seem to say, "this is what I'm going to do and you can all get *^%#^&ed, you cant run me over because you probably suffer that normal human condition of not wanting to hurt strangers, :thumbnose:"
I forgot how much they irked me,
I ride a motorbike and sometimes ride on the inside and occasionally in the middle, but I'm always 3 times as fast as the nearest car. Have car drivers ever got out of the car and stood in the middle of a traffic snarl. It's toxic and should be avoided at all costs, hence the motorbike riders need to get throuigh / around other vehicles.

[AlexS]

Idiots who think that just because they have a car, cyclists should get out of their way. I've seen lots of traffic jams caused by cars, but none caused by cyclists.

[wheelinround]

Idiots who think that just because they have a car, cyclists should get out of their way. I've seen lots of traffic jams caused by cars, but none caused by cyclists.

I have been a cyclist, motorbike and heavy vehicle.

AlexS What is all the fight about cyclists in Sydney City then, couriers mainly, try stopping 30t of coach when one darts out in front with less than 1m to stop :~

As to traffic jams.... travel the Old Pacific Hwy, Geat Western Hwy, Princess Hwy when cyclists believe its their right to ride on any Sunday with no regard to how much road they use, speed limits indicated.

Is it Allex that your in the squad of riders not behind stuck in a car that you don't see the traffic jam.:U

[Grumpy John]

I'm sure anyone living in Melbourne's Eastern Bayside suburbs has had to put up with this:

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It's not just on weekends either, but during the week in peak period.

[Woodwould]

My wife travels from Bayside Melbourne to the City every day and on inclement days (when there are few to zero cyclists on the road), her travel time is virtually halved.

Cyclists should be taxed in line with other road users. Laws governing their use should also be regulated and vehemently enforced.

I won't stand aside on a footpath to let a cyclist by and on more than one occasion I have been berated for doing so and one rider repeatedly rammed the back of my legs with his wheel because I refused to heed his frantic bell-ringing. He later managed to salvage what was left of his mangled bicycle off the road.

[jimbur]

He later managed to salvage what was left of his mangled bicycle off the road.

I like that. The WW hoon law.
Cheers,
Jim

[Big Shed]

Cyclists should be taxed in line with other road users. Laws governing their use should also be regulated and vehemently enforced.



And they should have to display a number plate like any other road user.

That should help to modify their behaviour.

Police in Vic have been targeting cyclists running red lights and it is showing results, I have actually seen cyclists stop at a red light:o

[jimbur]

ps to WW. Did you jump on it or just toss it into the traffic?

[damian]

push bike riders that dont move over to let you past.

push bike riders that dont follow road rules.

push bike riders that jump up on teh footpath when the light is red.

push bike riders that ride up teh middle at red lights then sit in front of you and take half an hour to start off.

push bike riders that lean on your car so tehy dot have to take there feet off the pedals.

push bike riders that ride 2 and 3 abrest so u can not possibly pass them.

push bike riders.

You don't drive a blue ford ute do you ? :D

(Local joke, sorry)

The courier mail occasionally runs a hot button article on push bikes. The comments blow out with drivers and bike riders railing against one another.

Thing is pedestrians chip in too. Pedestrians and car drivers never rail at each other. Pedestrian needs to cross, they obey the rules or show curtesy and cars stop and let them pass.

So if cyclists can't get along with cars, can't get along with pedestrians and apparently get into punchups with each other on cycleways who do you suppose is the problem here ? :)

And it's not all cyclists. The ones that are always cited are the lycra brigade. No one minds kids riding, no one minds some poor sod trying to get to work in steelcaps wobbling along the side of the road. As is so often the case it's a badly behaved minority.

Funny thread this. Some of you are hysterical.

[AUSSIE]

And it's not all cyclists. The ones that are always cited are the lycra brigade. No one minds kids riding, no one minds some poor sod trying to get to work in steelcaps wobbling along the side of the road. As is so often the case it's a badly behaved minority.

Funny thread this. Some of you are hysterical.
You have it Damian-The poser- or the type of person who wants to control the world and all they have is their little bike:roll:

[Ashore]

people that drive 10km/h under the speed limit when you can't overtake safely then accelerate to 20km/h over for an overtaking lane then slowing down again at the end:~

The correct term for such people is " Passhole" :2tsup:

[jimbur]

and all they have is their little bike:roll:

And with lycra you know that that's all they have:D

[Woodwould]

ps to WW. Did you jump on it or just toss it into the traffic?
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[jimbur]

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Bicycles do that. They have a mind of their own (even with someone in the saddle)

[AUSSIE]

good one woody,I like that:D

[Geoff Dean]

push bike riders that dont move over to let you past.

push bike riders that dont follow road rules.

push bike riders that jump up on teh footpath when the light is red.

push bike riders that ride up teh middle at red lights then sit in front of you and take half an hour to start off.

push bike riders that lean on your car so tehy dot have to take there feet off the pedals.

push bike riders that ride 2 and 3 abrest so u can not possibly pass them.

push bike riders.

Idiots in cars that drive so close to you on a bike that they almost brush you off.

Idiots in cars that don't follow road rules.

Idiots in cars that run red lights.

Idiots in cars that sit at red lights spewing pollution from their exhaust.

Idiots in parked cars who open their doors as you are riding past.

Idiots in cars who drive slowly so you cant get past.

Idiots in cars in general.

[weisyboy]

what i cant understand is why dose everyone feel the need to wear really tight Lycra suits to ride there bike.

if it not possible to ride in normal clothes.

[Gingermick]

that's for the aerodynamic gain. Some of these eejuts ride at almost 30kph and need all the help they can get.

[weisyboy]

cos its really gunna make that mutch diferance.

[artme]

Lasagna that sticks to the aluminium tray when you heat it in the oven.:~

Guess what I had for dinner?:rolleyes:

[Grumpy John]

Idiots in cars that don't use indicators.

[Blue-deviled]

That's not grumpy enough. I find anybody using the road when I do is in the way!

[AlexS]

... couriers mainly, try stopping 30t of coach when one darts out in front with less than 1m to stop :~
Cycle couriers are a breed apart. They seem to think that because they spend more time on their bikes than most others, they are better riders and don't have to obey the road rules. Or perhaps it's because they have to make a living that they think that they don't have to obey the rules. Much like cabbies, bus & truck drivers, couriers.


As to traffic jams.... travel the Old Pacific Hwy, Geat Western Hwy, Princess Hwy when cyclists believe its their right to ride on any Sunday with no regard to how much road they use, speed limits indicated.
In either case, there are parallel freeways where cyclists are prohibited. Why not use them if you're in a hurry?


I'm sure anyone living in Melbourne's Eastern Bayside suburbs has had to put up with this:

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It's not just on weekends either, but during the week in peak period.
The irony in the first two photos is that the holdup, if there is one, is caused by cars - all those cars parked in the left hand lane. I thought roads are for travel, parking lots are for parking.
If all those cyclists were in their cars, one or two per car, as is normal, you'd have a much bigger traffic jam.



Cyclists should be taxed in line with other road users.
Quite so. The damage to roads, according to research done by the old NSW DMR, is proportional to the 5th power of the mass of the vehicle. So, if a cyclist and his bike weigh 100kg, and a car weighs 1000kg, the car is doing 100,000 times the damage that the bike is. If your rego is $250 per year, mine should be 1c every 4 years. Work out for yourself what a 40 tonne truck should pay. Or perhaps everyone should be charged for the amount of thoroughfare they use. In that case, pedestrians aren't going to be very happy. Think of all those footpaths that hardly ever get used.

[Woodwould]

The damage to roads, according to research done by the old NSW DMR, is proportional to the 5th power of the mass of the vehicle. So, if a cyclist and his bike weigh 100kg, and a car weighs 1000kg, the car is doing 100,000 times the damage that the bike is. If your rego is $250 per year, mine should be 1c every 4 years. Work out for yourself what a 40 tonne truck should pay. Or perhaps everyone should be charged for the amount of thoroughfare they use. In that case, pedestrians aren't going to be very happy. Think of all those footpaths that hardly ever get used.
Not quite what I had in mind. I propose the taxation should be determined by vehicle length and penalties be added for every km/h they travel under the prescribed speed limit.

BTW, I was a daily cyclist for many years.

[Big Shed]

The "prescribed speed limit" is a maximum limit not a minimum limit, isn't it?

[jimbur]

I wonder what would happen to the traffic flow if the old rule that P platers couldn't go faster than 50mph (80kph) were re-introduced? gridlock probably.
Jim

[Manuka Jock]

Forward to the Past


The Locomotive Act 1865 set a speed limit of 4 mph in the country and 2 mph in towns. The 1865 Act also provided for the then famous "man with a red flag". Walking 60 yards ahead of each vehicle, a man with a red flag or lantern enforced a walking pace, and warned horse riders and horse drawn traffic of the approach of a self propelled machine. :2tsup:

[jimbur]

All the complaints about incontinent dogs would fade into nothing if we had to live on the old streets in the old times - imagine streets ankle deep in a slurry of horse droppings and horse urine:D

[Manuka Jock]

Fights in the street over who gets the turds for the rose garden :D

[AUSSIE]

We could build a whole new Green City just for bike riders.Like a detension center for bike riders No roads,just bike tracks.
A lot of exclusive shops selling lycra gear only.No electricity.
Would be the cleanest city in the world.Would bore the backside off you but:roll:
Would keep most of us happy though-- no bike riders for the rest of us Woo Hoo:;

[Manuka Jock]

Built with pedal powered earth moving machinery , construction equipment , etc. :D
As if :rolleyes:

Lycra, a cloth made from synthetic fiber that has a high carbon footprint , as well as a high ecological footprint :(

[Waldo]

I wonder what would happen to the traffic flow if the old rule that P platers couldn't go faster than 50mph (80kph) were re-introduced? gridlock probably.
Jim

That has me puzzled in NSW the speed that P plates are limited to. When learning to drive back at home in QLD you drove to the limit, and from the first point of learning to drive I was doing 80km p/hr.

I often drove between Brisbane and Newcastle, and the amount of time I spent crawling behind a P plate doing 80 on the Pacific H/way, and having to wait for ages for an overtaking lane to pass was intolerable.

[Big Shed]

I could be wrong, but I have somehow never equated the Lycra clad bicycle brigade with "green" and "environment":no:

More the yuppie coffee bar crowd (think $5000 coffee machines and barista courses)

Was listening to some guy from Monash Uni on ABC Radio a couple of weeks ago who was in to designing bicycles from high tech materials. He was talking about a crowd in Geelong that build custom bicycles to order, from thing like titanium etc. Prices were in the $20,000 range:o

[Grumpy John]

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The irony in the first two photos is that the holdup, if there is one, is caused by cars - all those cars parked in the left hand lane. I thought roads are for travel, parking lots are for parking.
If all those cyclists were in their cars, one or two per car, as is normal, you'd have a much bigger traffic jam.
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Actually where the cars are parked it is a clearway during peak traffic times (as is most of Beach Road) and the cyclists still manage to cause chaos, particularly in the morning rush hour.

[Woodwould]

The "prescribed speed limit" is a maximum limit not a minimum limit, isn't it?

Precisely! If cyclists had to pay for every km/h they rode under the indicated (maximum) speed limit, it would keep many of them to the back streets and off the main thoroughfares, thus easing traffic flow in and out of major centres especially during the commuting periods.

Even though I occasionally get around in a flash metallic red electric cripple-cart, I also believe the same regulations I propose should apply to any type of wheeled vehicles like the cripple-carts and those two-wheeled kids' scooters with the little wheels. They're all a liability on the road and on the footpath. (I only ride my cripple-cart around Bunny's, M10 and the Woodworking Show. :U)

[jimbur]

Fights in the street over who gets the turds for the rose garden :D

Don't forget its use in fuming oak:D

[Manuka Jock]

Don't forget its use in fuming oak:D

That was the .
The turds for the roses.

Fine oak furniture covered in rose petals :U

[wheelinround]

Cycle couriers are a breed apart. They seem to think that because they spend more time on their bikes than most others, they are better riders and don't have to obey the road rules. Or perhaps it's because they have to make a living that they think that they don't have to obey the rules. Much like cabbies, bus & truck drivers, couriers.

In either case, there are parallel freeways where cyclists are prohibited. Why not use them if you're in a hurry?

:no: Those parallel Freeways are not FREE thats why :~
Being in the position of a pensioner the amount of $$$$ it cost for a Tag it would mean the pension would have to made comparable to that of an average weekly wage of $1000.
They do ride along them many a cyclist is seen along the M5, M4, M2 the M7 having its own FREE cycleway. These same Expressways /Toll rd's do not go where motorists need to go.

The irony in the first two photos is that the holdup, if there is one, is caused by cars - all those cars parked in the left hand lane. I thought roads are for travel, parking lots are for parking.
If all those cyclists were in their cars, one or two per car, as is normal, you'd have a much bigger traffic jam.

Even bigger when they carry their bikes on the back, top, inside (ie trains) or front ( see photo below) of vehicles to get to where they want to go or ride.

Quite so. The damage to roads, according to research done by the old NSW DMR, is proportional to the 5th power of the mass of the vehicle. So, if a cyclist and his bike weigh 100kg, and a car weighs 1000kg, the car is doing 100,000 times the damage that the bike is. If your rego is $250 per year, mine should be 1c every 4 years. Work out for yourself what a 40 tonne truck should pay. Or perhaps everyone should be charged for the amount of thoroughfare they use. In that case, pedestrians aren't going to be very happy. Think of all those footpaths that hardly ever get used.

Incorrect as to paths not being used cyclists use them constantly and its against he law in this state of NSW for other than young riders. Then there is those many riders who flaunt the law as to not wearing helmets, safety vests or bright colours. Those who give no thought to the colour of bike making it stand out. No mirrors, reflectors, hand signals especially when in groups they are all supposed to do it.

The bus below is ACT, it was planned and fought for by the Cycle association, many state wide bodies have tried for the same thing. Stupid side is these same people are fighting to have bullbars removed from vehicles. :doh:
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/646/384atbelconnen1nov20091.jpg

[wheelinround]

Fights in the street over who gets the turds for the rose garden :D

I recall those days, waiting with shovel in hand for the milk or vegie cart to come up the street, mother standing by with pail in hand sending me onto the road while she would watch for traffic. Thank goodness it was early 60's when hardly anyone had cars.:U

[wheelinround]

Election time its still peddling LOL

We see these top leaders spruking all they are worth (not much) for what only to have to vote for who not them they aren't from your area :doh: Whats your local polly doing sitting back sipping tea. Whats their agenda.........no problem if your Labor vote they are plotting who to put in next as leader same as the other mob. So who you vote for now may be in the Rubbish truck by next week. Biggest waste of tax funds ever.

[Woodwould]

Fights in the street over who gets the turds for the rose garden :D

Some people recommend putting horse scones on their rhubarb too – I prefer custard on mine.

[Manuka Jock]

Some people recommend putting horse scones on their rhubarb too – I prefer custard on mine.
Me too :U

[Woodwould]

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Why do manufacturers insist on placing irremovable stickers on their products? I can understand the segmented price stickers to dissuade dishonest gits from swapping labels in the aisles, but come on, why can't the manufacturers employ easy-peel labels?

On a similar tack, why do clothing manufacturers insist on sewing the scratchiest labels into their garments – undies especially! Have you ever stood closely behind a woman (what on earth were you doing?) and noticed her expensive Italian silk blouse all puckered up at about shoulder level? Another case of cursed labels detracting from otherwise beautiful and expensive garments.

Oh, and the imbeciles who walk around with the manufacturers' rack spotter labels still tacked onto the sleeves of their coats!

Oh, oh, oh and the wannabes with the Orefors crystal wine glasses that they got for a wedding present that still have the germ-harbouring Orefors labels stuck on them for everyone to see.