Forum postings - one for ;-}

[rsser]

This post was on another forum I'm a member of. You may like it (apologies if you've seen it already).

How many forum members does it take to change a light
bulb???..........

1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been
changed

14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed differently

7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs

6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ...

another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid

2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term
is "lamp"

15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light
bulb" is perfectly correct

19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please
take this discussion to a light bulb forum

11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum

36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where
to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
this technique and what brands are faulty

5 People to post pics of their own light bulbs

15 People to post "I can't see nothing" and their own light bulbs

7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs

4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
corrected URL's

13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including
all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"

5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they
cannot handle the light bulb controversy

4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"

13 to say "do a search on light bulbs before posting questions about
light bulbs"

1 to bring politics into the discussion by adding that George W.
isn't the brightest bulb.

4 more to get into personal attacks over their political views.

1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and
start it all over again.

1 moderator to lock the light bulb thread.

[Big Shed]

How true, I'll close the thread now, shall I?:rolleyes:

Before I do, there is one missing, someone will call the light bulb an LB, and 10 others will ask "what's an LB?":D

[chrisb691]

Finally, we have a lightbulb thread.

My wife bought some bulbs on special, but they have thready screwy ends on them. They keep falling out of my sockets, even though I put some blue-tak on the ends. Would liqued nails be better?

[Big Shed]

No, definitely not, liquid and electricity don't mix.

You will need to buy LBs that have a BC fitting, which is an acronym that stands for?

[Big Shed]

Ooh, I forgot, now that that dreaded e word has been used I am supposed to put up the standard forum disclaimer!:oo:


DISCLAIMER

No liability is accepted by UBeaut or the Wood Working Forum's administrators
or moderators for advice offered by members posting replies
or asking questions regarding electrical work.
We strongly advise contacting a Licensed Tradeperson for all electrical work.

WARNING

Information supplied within posts is not to be considered as detailed formal instructions to complete a task.
Members following such information do so at their own risk

[jmk89]

Beat me to it Fred. I should have posted that once I knew there was electrickery involved

[Ozkaban]

This post was on another forum I'm a member of. You may like it (apologies if you've seen it already).

How many forum members does it take to change a light
bulb???..........

1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been
changed

14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed differently

7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs

6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ...

another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid

2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term
is "lamp"

15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light
bulb" is perfectly correct

19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please
take this discussion to a light bulb forum

11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum

36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where
to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
this technique and what brands are faulty

5 People to post pics of their own light bulbs

15 People to post "I can't see nothing" and their own light bulbs

7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs

4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
corrected URL's

13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including
all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"

5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they
cannot handle the light bulb controversy

4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"

13 to say "do a search on light bulbs before posting questions about
light bulbs"

1 to bring politics into the discussion by adding that George W.
isn't the brightest bulb.

4 more to get into personal attacks over their political views.

1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and
start it all over again.

1 moderator to lock the light bulb thread.

Me too

[petersemple]

This is a woodwork forum, not an electrical one. Can we please keep this on topic?

[rsser]

Which forum Dave?

[Ozkaban]

This is a woodwork forum, not an electrical one. Can we please keep this on topic?

We all use electricity, therefore the posts are relevant on this forum.

[46150]

.............whats LB mean?

[Ozkaban]

.............whats LB mean?

It's an odd rule in cricket that states something along the lines of if the bloke chucking the ball at you manages to hit you instead of the stumps, then you're out.

[DJ’s Timber]

Geeze you guys, you're stuck in the old days, we don't use LBs any more :no: :doh: we use CFLs now :2tsup: :U

[petersemple]

I just saw this very knowledgeable forum. I have a school project to complete and wonder if someone could provide me with answers to these questions.

1. The average power consumption of a typical light bulb
2. The formula to work out the annual running cost of an average light bulb assuming it is running for 6 hours every day.
3. The names of the major light bulb manufacturers
4. The history of the kight bulb.

I would appreciate comprehensive answers to these questions thank you

[RETIRED]

Keep it civil kiddies.:D:D

[petersemple]

Can someone tell me the best time to plant irises?

[Grumpy John]

I think this thread belongs in the renovators forum, after all it's about home improvement :D :rolleyes:.

[tea lady]

Can someone tell me the best time to plant irises?

Ah yes! They forgot to mention the thread hijacks.:D

[funkychicken]

Ah yes! They forgot to mention the thread hijacks.:D

I take offense to that!:((

[underfoot]

I take offense to that!:((
if you think that such an innocuous thread is offensive FC I think you should take your opinions and post them elsewhere! and stop changing the topic:((
besides, the moderators will no doubt step in shortly and determine that I am correct.

[funkychicken]

if you think that such an innocuous thread is offensive FC I think you should take your opinions and post them elsewhere! and stop changing the topic:((
besides, the moderators will no doubt step in shortly and determine that I am correct.

If you want to start posting personal attacks then I'll no longer take part in this thread. I've got better things to do with my time than argue with your sort:D

[dj_pnevans]

Look what you have done now ERN the kids are fighting.:D
David

[Cliff Rogers]

I'm back, what did I miss? :?

[robbo266317]

I am following this thread with considerable interest and thought I would share a pic of some of my LB's and CFL's

124402

[rsser]

Nah, LEDs are the way to go. You don't have to change them.

...

How many social workers does it take to change a light globe?

One, but it's got to want to change.
:D

[Cliff Rogers]

What was the question again? :?

[Sebastiaan56]

Hey ,

Great piccie mate! I was wondering about the one on the far left, have you ever used the screw version rather then the bayonet? Is it legal? also what do you reckon a beginner would be better able to read "Where the Wild Things Are?" to his kids?,

Thanks for your reply in advance,

[Cliff Rogers]

Hey Seb, ya can't put the screw version in the bayonet socket unless ya use some chewy or blue tack for packing. :no:

[46150]

It's an odd rule in cricket that states something along the lines of if the bloke chucking the ball at you manages to hit you instead of the stumps, then you're out.

Thanks Ozkaban, glad you cleared that up............

[rsser]

Hey Seb, ya can't put the screw version in the bayonet socket unless ya use some chewy or blue tack for packing. :no:

I'm sure I've seen adaptors advertised on the web somewhere.

If there's enough interest I'll organise a bulk buy.

[robbo266317]

Hey ,

Great piccie mate! I was wondering about the one on the far left, have you ever used the screw version rather then the bayonet? Is it legal? also what do you reckon a beginner would be better able to read "Where the Wild Things Are?" to his kids?,

Thanks for your reply in advance,

Thanks, I have some edison screw ones as well for ceiling fans and security lights. I will try to get you a picture of them as well if you are interested.

As for the Wild Things I find the cool white CFL's are ideal for reading but it's a matter of taste really. If the book has pictures they may look better under an incandescent.

Cheers,
Bill.

[tea lady]

I'm sure I've seen adaptors advertised on the web somewhere.

If there's enough interest I'll organise a bulk buy.:rofl:

[petersemple]

I think the best place to buy light bulbs is Coles. As usual no affiliation etc just a satisfied customer. I've heard you can even mail order them now.

[rsser]

The steel in the Coles bulbs is crap and there's shocking run-out.

[petersemple]

Well, I've been using them for years and had no trouble. Of course, I'm not a professional light bulb user, so your needs may be different.

[rsser]

Darn right.

Get mine shipped over from Veritas.

The A10 models with the machined flats for the fingers to rest on.

[petersemple]

Veritas? Well, that explains it then. The quality is good, but they are way, way overpriced. Still, I suppose it's your money. You'd be better off with a vintage light bulb. You can pick them up at flea markets for very little if you know what you're looking for. A bit of a clean up and a tune and they are just as bright as anything Veritas will charge you 10 times the money for.

[rsser]

Well, I admire guys who've got nothing better to do than spend hours with plate glass and abrasive sheets truing up the thumb flats on their globe sockets.

If that's how you get your kicks who am I to argue.

[Ozkaban]

Well, I admire guys who've got nothing better to do than spend hours with plate glass and abrasive sheets truing up the thumb flats on their globe sockets.

If that's how you get your kicks who am I to argue.

I've actually been wondering if the new JET waterston sharpener LB Jig will be as good as the Tormek one. Do you reckon it will fit on the Scheppach 2000?

[Cliff Rogers]

Time for a hijack.... how is this for a hot day? :D

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124412&stc=1&d=1261010427

[rsser]

Jeez Dave, that's a question for the Tormek forum. Get with the program mate!

Peter, reread your post.

Money! Huh. What's a sheet of plate glass worth? And some sheets of 3M micro-abrasive???

Bet your the kind of guy who goes down to 0.5 micron, just so you can post a pic on the hand-tool forum.

Oh, and I checked out Hans and Steve's websites ... no vintage bulbs for love or money.

[petersemple]

For all you vintage buffs: link to the oldest burning vintage bulb here: Livermore's Centennial Light (http://www.centennialbulb.org/)

[rsser]

Keep it civil kiddies.:D:D

Well, wouldn't ya know it ... here we go.

Just cos a few alternatives to the forum sponsor's product is mentioned we're gunna get shut down.

Now I grant you that the ubeaut patented never-change globe is a great piece of kit. But you have to keep it in the fridge before use, and then buff it hard with a bit of cotton flannelette before it's ready to go. I ask ya!

[petersemple]

It's all a conspiracy. But then there are still people out there who really believe NASA landed on the moon too.

[hughie]

:2tsup: good one Cliff

http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=124412&stc=1&d=1261010427[/QUOTE]

[RETIRED]

Keep it on topic children.:wink:

[Ozkaban]

Keep it on topic children.:wink:
Happy to
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee12/sholesshs/Smileys/scratch-1.gif

Does anyone remember what it was :shrug:

[rsser]

Not a problem.

George Dubbya wasn't a dim bulb at all.

His filament burned out years ago.

No bulb at all.

[Ozkaban]

Not a problem.

George Dubbya wasn't a dim bulb at all.

His filament burned out years ago.

No bulb at all.

I guess it all started with that edison screwball anyway :D

[Cliff Rogers]

Keep it on topic children.:wink:
That would be right... rain on my hijack... think I'll sit in the corner & sulk. :C

[tea lady]

That would be right... rain on my hijack... think I'll sit in the corner & sulk. :CI think we'll just freeze you out instead.:D

:cold:

I like this style of hot dog better.:cool:
http://slog.thestranger.com/files/2007/08/Hot-Dog.jpg

[Cliff Rogers]

You want fries with that?

[artme]

Isn't edison spelt Edison??? Not being pedantic, just can't let old habits of correction die.

I'm also wondering when we'll see a Chinese imitation of the Veritas LB. Can't be far away.

[Ozkaban]

Isn't edison spelt Edison???

Only when he's plugged in to the socket :2tsup:

[rsser]

I'm also wondering when we'll see a Chinese imitation of the Veritas LB. Can't be far away.

There was one produced I believe but the copy writer had trouble with English and several million went out labelled 'Great Wank Bulb' :D

[petersemple]

There was one produced I believe but the copy writer had trouble with English and several million went out labelled 'Great Wank Bulb' :D


GWB? Now your bringing politics into this? Braver man than I.

[funkychicken]

Finally, we have a lightbulb thread.

My wife bought some bulbs on special, but they have thready screwy ends on them. They keep falling out of my sockets, even though I put some blue-tak on the ends. Would liqued nails be better?

Hi I was wondering if you still had these light bulbs for sale?


(I bet you'd all forgotten about the people who dredge up old threads:p)

[Cliff Rogers]

What was the question again? :?

[m2c1Iw]

Anyone know where I can buy a 19 watt light globe in Adelaide, Southern suburbs preferrably. I've tried the local electrician he told me to stop wasting his time, the insolent monkey. I won't be going back to him. Oh and can you tell me what I would pay if I bought 10.

Thanks in anticipation for your advice.

[Cliff Rogers]

I've got 4 15watt bulbs with miniature edison screw fittings, they look like they may fit a fridge or a microwave or a sewing machine.

Would you like me to send you one?

[m2c1Iw]

Thanks for the quick response Cliff.

Will a 15 watt globe be OK in my whatsit. It's a 1957 model K with a red knob.

Do they have many hours on them I don't want to pull the dohickey out of the thingomejig if it stops working again.

Thanks again

BTW how much for postage from FNQ will you take a cheque and can I return it if it is the wong one.

[Honorary Bloke]

If I have learned anything over the years it is to avoid cheap tools. If you only want to change one or two bulbs, the Ozito bulb changer might work for you, but if you are serious about bulb changing, you will invest in a changer that will last for years. :D:D

[underfoot]

but if you are serious about bulb changing, you will invest in a changer that will last for years. :D:D
or if you have some rudimentry DIY skills you can always build your own light bulb changer.
Here's some plans for a basic one

[rsser]

Some people are just tool sluts.

You can't beat a hand turned globe. The difference is visible.

[robbo266317]

Anyone know where I can buy a 19 watt light globe in Adelaide, Southern suburbs preferrably. I've tried the local electrician he told me to stop wasting his time, the insolent monkey. I won't be going back to him. Oh and can you tell me what I would pay if I bought 10.

Thanks in anticipation for your advice.

Why don't you do what I do.

Simply purchase a 20 watt globe and use electrical tape to mask of 5% of the globe.
Works a treat and saves time by not running all over town trying to find the exact one.

pm me if you need to know where to put the tape.

[Cliff Rogers]

Thanks for the quick response Cliff.
No wuckers.


Will a 15 watt globe be OK in my whatsit. It's a 1957 model K with a red knob.
Dunno, not familiar with that one.

Do they have many hours on them I don't want to pull the dohickey out of the thingomejig if it stops working again.
Brand new old stock, still in the original boxes & the bit of sticky tape around the boxes it hasn't gone yellow & fallen off yet.

Thanks again
No wuckers.

BTW how much for postage from FNQ
$1.10

will you take a cheque
No, DD only.

and can I return it if it is the wong one.
Yup.

[m2c1Iw]

Masking a 20 watt great idea PM nearly sent.

I'd post a photo of my whatsit and the old globe but I can't get it to load, any suggestions.

Forgot to ask is it Friday yet Cliff :D

[robbo266317]

I'd post a photo of my whatsit and the old globe but I can't get it to load

I don't think we need a picture of your whatsit :oo: - a ruler would give a better idea of the globes size....

[ozhunter]

You guys are hilariarse. One of the funniest threads I've read for a while. :2tsup:

[wally peat]

With apologies in advance to all of those who have posted so knowledgeably here already. I have been following this thread with interest and I am very impressed with the generosity of spirit with which all of you share your wide a varied experiences. So this may seem basic, but could somebody please explain to a newbie what a light bulb actually does? I have seen other people purchasing them in stores, and they all look very happy when they do, but I have never been brave enough to ask this question in a shop.

[petersemple]

With apologies in advance to all of those who have posted so knowledgeably here already. I have been following this thread with interest and I am very impressed with the generosity of spirit with which all of you share your wide a varied experiences. So this may seem basic, but could somebody please explain to a newbie what a light bulb actually does? I have seen other people purchasing them in stores, and they all look very happy when they do, but I have never been brave enough to ask this question in a shop.


Read the FAQ, and then use Google. I am sure you could find all the answers you need yourself rather than getting us to do all your work for you.

[rsser]

And search Youtube.

The uses to which they're put are illuminating.

[Grumpy John]

Ern, have you considered the link between this thread and you being mysteriously knocked off your bike :rolleyes:

[rsser]

Crikey! That's a good point.

Could be the rare transient LOC (loss of clarity) effect :oo:

Thanks GJ .. must remember to screw up harder next time.

[Daddles]

Crikey! That's a good point.

Could be the rare transient LOC (loss of clarity) effect :oo:

Thanks GJ .. must remember to screw up harder next time.

Rare? That's the funniest part of the thread :rotfl:

Richard

[Cliff Rogers]

I don't think we need a picture of your whatsit :oo: - a ruler would give a better idea of the globes size....
He might have 12 inches but he doesn't use it as a rule.

[Black Ned]

I hope someone may be able to help me with this problem. I have been asked to change the lightbulb at the end of the tunnel. Unfortunately it keeps moving. Just when I think I'm about to reach it, there is this big puff of steam and whoosh, the light goes out. Has anybody had experience with tunnel vision and/or night vision goggles. Would these help? I look forward to your response.

[rsser]

You may have been misled Ned.

The light at the end of the tunnel is a metaphor.

If you've been asked to change it to a low voltage unit, then this is a v. serious portent so consult your astrologer immediately.

If it's to be an efficient long-life bulb OTOH, that's great news!

And I'm not sure what an LED array means. Anyone?

[RETIRED]

I hope someone may be able to help me with this problem. I have been asked to change the lightbulb at the end of the tunnel. Unfortunately it keeps moving. Just when I think I'm about to reach it, there is this big puff of steam and whoosh, the light goes out. Has anybody had experience with tunnel vision and/or night vision goggles. Would these help? I look forward to your response.You will probably find that these are low voltage units of the incandescent type.
They are a very inefficient source of light and should be replaced with halogen bulbs.
However this leads to another problem in that most halogen bulbs don't fit the socket that incandescent bulbs use.
Best you just leave it alone.
Beware that it is not attached to a steam engine that may come forward.


You may have been misled Ned.

The light at the end of the tunnel is a metaphor.

If you've been asked to change it to a low voltage unit, then this is a v. serious portent so consult your astrologer immediately.

If it's to be an efficient long-life bulb OTOH, that's great news!

And I'm not sure what an LED array means. Anyone? You can read about it here: Light-emitting diode - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-emitting_diode)

or here: HowStuffWorks "How Light Emitting Diodes Work" (http://www.howstuffworks.com/led.htm)

If you googled it, it you would get 3,680,000 hits.:wink::D

[arose62]

I believe that the original posting was flawed, as it omitted:

1 PERSON TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS, POSIBYL WITH TYPOS. MAYBE EVEN IN A SPECIALLY HIGHLIGHTED FONT.

1 (or more) person(s) to put on Grammar/Typing Official hat, and shred the post, pointing out said errors, and commenting that typing ineptitude probably implies mental deficiency

(optional)
1 prsn 2 typ sumfin in SMS wich may hav bn UUfl R NTRSTNG trnsltd N2 nrml Inglsh.

2 folks to post links to eBay listings of light bulbs, and proclaim their lack of affiliation with said offering.


Disclaimer:
any typos in this post are due to the tears of laughter streaming down my face. Bravo to all!!

[wally peat]

Read the FAQ, and then use Google. I am sure you could find all the answers you need yourself rather than getting us to do all your work for you.

Thanks very much for the pointers. I read the FAQ and then the QAF, as well as the googly stuff, but none of it could tell me watt Filler meant. In fact, there wasn't much info about Filler at all, so I asked my mum, who said she keeps her bulbs in the freezer for 8 weeks just before spring. I thought she was doing it to get frosted bulbs, but she reckons it's just to make them sprout faster. I don't think that's such a bright idea.........:?

[arose62]

Some folks soak them in a mixture of dishwashing detergent for a few months.

Supposed to make them easier to turn on.

[rotten_66]

Can someone tell me the best time to plant irises?

What type?? If it is a bearded iris then it has nothing to do with bulbs as they are a rhizome. So shouldn't be in this thread.

If standard irises though plant them in April so they will flower in spring.

[robbo266317]

If you plan to grow iris bulbs some care should be taken to improve soil conditions first. It is best to use a slow release fertilizer to improve the nutrient value of the soil. Use compost, well rotted manure or peat moss to improve the organic state of the soil. Make sure that the fertilizer and organic matter is worked into the upper 100mm to 150mm (four to six inches) of soil. Crested irises grow best in wooded areas that have good drainage and partial shade.



(extract from Iris Bulbs by Special Organic Soils (http://www.allsortza.com/iris-bulbs.php))

[RETIRED]

Keep it on topic Kiddies or next we will be talking about the bulbs on Hydrometers.:C

[rsser]

But how do you wire them up?

[tea lady]

If you plan to grow iris bulbs some care should be taken to improve soil conditions first. It is best to use a slow release fertilizer to improve the nutrient value of the soil. Use compost, well rotted manure or peat moss to improve the organic state of the soil. Make sure that the fertilizer and organic matter is worked into the upper 100mm to 150mm (four to six inches) of soil. Crested irises grow best in wooded areas that have good drainage and partial shade.



(extract from Iris Bulbs by Special Organic Soils (http://www.allsortza.com/iris-bulbs.php))There is some really good manure being produced in this thread, but it lacks substance I think. Not having any effect on my bulbs at all. :saddest: Should I have planted them on a full moon? Or is waxing better? :think:

:D

[Sturdee]

But how do you wire them up?

Don't know. Get a sparky to do it. :D


Peter.

[arose62]

Or is waxing better? :think:

:D

Not according to this ad :)

YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

[underfoot]

Not according to this ad :)
. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvFSgXpyhoM)
that was really nice :) and those girls had lovely voices.
( I had no idea what they were singing about ):?
anyways, anyone know where would I get one of those gorgeous pink mowers :rolleyes:

[rsser]

Err, think I'd prefer the addr of one of those lawns ;-}

[witch1]

:no:It's time for the spelling nazies to chime into this load of codswallop, it's an insult to the fair dinkum people who try to help the less informed.
one poor soul looking for someone to shed some light on his problem, was led astray by some joker who obviously has no idea watts happening in the current debate.
tea lady trying to find what to do with her bulbs, not one helpful answer from anyone I think i'll have to find another forum to waste my time on if this is the kind of thing i have to put up with.
disgruntled
witch1

[Cliff Rogers]

Sorry.... what was the question again?

[m2c1Iw]

At about this point someone gets offended, slings off, gets indignant, retaliates, annoys a moderator, has posts deleted...........then gets banned.

:think:think I'll go now. :D

[robbo266317]

tea lady trying to find what to do with her bulbs, not one helpful answer from anyone.
witch1

I'm sure there are a lot of people here who could help out, maybe if a new thread was started then solutions would come pouring in.

[tea lady]

Err, think I'd prefer the addr of one of those lawns ;-}Lawns? Are they good for bulbs? My lawn is all weeds. :C Maybe I need solar powered bulbs outdoors.:think:

:DWe'll get this thread in the orange room yet! :rolleyes:

[Ray153]

No wonder there has been some much confusion in this thread. Not one of you has gotten it right yet.

There is no such thing as a light bulb. What you are all mistakenly calling light bulbs are, to use their correct title, is a Dark Sucker or DS for short).

Why do I hear someone ask? No? Ahh, there is always someone willing to ask, thank you to the gentleman in the 2nd row with the hat and goatee.

The reason why they are called DS is simple. The absence of dark is most noticeable the closer to the DS you look, simply because that is where the ability to suck darkness is highest, which simply explains why the further away from the DS, the higher the percentage of darkness in a given point in space.

As for the reason a DS gets so hot, well, it is simple really, glass is quite efficient at conducting heat and the little wire strand that actually creates the energy required to suck darkness has to vibrate incredibly fast in order to create enough of a vacuum to draw in the dark, dark matter being known to all scientifically minded people as being one of the heaviest substances known to man.

When the DS has reached its storage capacity of dark, and don't believe anyone who tries to sell you a DS that will last forever as they must by all laws of logic have a finite capacity to store dark, they simply stop working and are no longer able to suck darkness any longer.

Despite the best efforts of the onomatopoetically fastidious to have the correct name become the common terminology for what is known to the masses as a LB, it is believed that Edison himself is to blame, in a moment of temporary insanity brought about through long hours spent trying to create a perpetual motion device, he was asked to explain the workings of a DS to a newspaper reporter, who naturally enough got it wrong and the name stuck ever after.

[tea lady]

:think: So if we had enough "dark suckers" could we remove all the dark so there wasn't anymore? Or is there an infinite supply? :blink:

[rsser]

I really like Ray's take on this but feel obliged to point to a confusion between dark matter and black holes.

Most of the universe consists of dark matter, and we don't really know much about it.

It's black holes that contain almost infinitely heavy matter.

It may be that bulbs act as concentrators of dark matter funneling it into black holes in a parallel universe.

[Ray153]

I really like Ray's take on this but feel obliged to point to a confusion between dark matter and black holes.

Most of the universe consists of dark matter, and we don't really know much about it.

It's black holes that contain almost infinitely heavy matter.

It may be that bulbs act as concentrators of dark matter funneling it into black holes in a parallel universe.

And this coming from a bloke who mistakenly persists in calling them light bulbs? :C:~ Sheeesh. Next thing you know he will be trying to convince us all that the world is round! :doh::D