Southern Star Campers

[glock40sw]

G'day All.
I was just wondering if anyone else has been ripped off by this mob.
The Missus paid him $5600 for a camper trailer back in August.
So far No Camper and No Refund.
He promised the camper numerous times and had all the excuses under the sun as to why it never arrived. Now he says he can't refund the money cause he doesn't have it.
I'm very tempted to lob on his doorstep.:D

Flights are cheap from Coffs to Melbourne at the moment...:2tsup:

[rhancock]

'Fraid you're not alone..."Southern Star Campers" - Google Search (http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22Southern+Star+Campers%22&hl=en&cr=countryAU&safe=off&rlz=1C1CHMB_en-GBAU330AU330&num=50&filter=0)

[Bob38S]

G'day All.

The Missus paid him $5600 for a camper trailer back in August.
So far No Camper and No Refund.
He promised the camper numerous times and had all the excuses under the sun as to why it never arrived. Now he says he can't refund the money cause he doesn't have it.
I'm very tempted to lob on his doorstep.:D

Flights are cheap from Coffs to Melbourne at the moment...:2tsup:

Geeeez Trev,

You are really a very patient person - far more than I could have been. It obviously is not a good situation. I would start trying to recover what you can ASAP as with the festive season etc it will drag on for a while.

Hope you can resolve it satisfactorily and quickly.

Regards,
Bob

[Foo]

I am afraid it is the same story on other forum,about this mob:~

[wheelinround]

I have a strange feeling this fellow's name is Robert used to be in Sydney.

Ok Thanks got the message.

[Foo]

I have a strange feeling this fellow's name is Robert used to be in Sydney.

Ok Thanks got the message.
Ok,I'm I curious now!Do you have some affiliation with Southern Cross?:?

[wheelinround]

Ok,I'm I curious now!Do you have some affiliation with Southern Cross?:?

No none at all. He was a fellow I knew of by association through an old mate. If its the same bloke he lived in NSW moved to Vic he was in caravans, motorhomes.

[maddieandjack]

Hi i'm new to this site purely for the fact that we to are having difficulty with Southern Star Campers. We have paid 8790.00 to them and have nothing yet to show for it. Its meant to be here by xmas. There hasnt been any excuses as such, yet, but we cant even get them on the phone. We have left message after message. Got any ideas anyone.....:((

[glock40sw]

Dont let it go any longer, get on to ebay, dept of fair trade, my missus is just about ready to hop a plane, (heaven help him if she gets hold of him) its been 4 months with us.

[maddieandjack]

Thank you for responding. Luckily we have a friend that lives near this company that will be paying a visit this morning. Like you say, i will be getting on to ebay, dep of fair trading, and who knows, if there is enough of us to lays complaints in regard to Scott and this so called company, I am willing to contact A Current Affair. Lets see what happens this morning???

[glock40sw]

I was thinking ACA as well.
I'm very interested in how you friends visit goes.
Please keep me informed if you would please?
PM if you don't want to air it in public.
Thanks.

[maddieandjack]

This mornings visit by our friend was quite unfortunate for them as you could expect. Our friend arrived at 9am pretending to be a customer. Scott, the owner, gave the general rave on about campertrailers then our friend requested to see a galvanised trailer, as that is what we have ordered. He was then shown one out the back, uncomplete but galvanised, then our friend quite bluntly SAID " this must be the one that belongs to """"""", US BASICALLY and then went on to say how we were told that it was meant to be freighted to us the week before last...

A couple of excused later, our friend requested it be fully completed by tomorrow as he will be back to check, and then he again will be there on Wednesday, 16th Nov, to see and check that it is properly made and personally witness it being loaded onto a truck for us to pick up n Sydney.
So thats where we are at the moment. So grateful we know someone down there as we live on the mid north coast.

Im still not entirely convinced yet, just so disappointed with the whole company.
Still not sure at this stage as to why
Scott the manager/owner, whoever he is, hasnt replied to all my husbands call to his mobile over the last week or so... so time will tell..Lets see wot hapens wednesday.... keep u posted.Cheers

[glock40sw]

G'day.
Thanks for the Update.
We are in Grafton. And as you can imagine, it is a fair hike to Melbourne to tune Scott up.
I will be interested to see how you get on.

Thanks.

[maddieandjack]

Yep will do for sure.

[beaver00]

We were in the Same situation. Bought 2 trailers and a tent off him and paid in full.. Fortunatley for us after 17weeks I mamaged to fianlly get the 2 trailers that we bought minus the extras that we paid for. Yesterday I finally got the tent as i had my own courier go in there and pick it up. My advice to you all is to keep ringing him. I have a huge phonebill from this but he eventually answered his mobile after 20calls in a row from me.. I did manage to get the trailers that were owed. with persistant. But it is very infuriating.
He is A BIG CON man and I would tell people to be aware.. To my knowledge he is still sellng trailers.
I guess eventually we will have to write the other stuff as a loss but Feel for the people that havent recieved anything yet.

I think this bloke needs to be exposed on A currnt Affair or Today Tonight.

I do have a mobile number for him if anyone needs it just email me..

Good Luck to all..

[pjsaurus]

gday all
well i also purchased one of these campers
paid all up 8200
that included delivery to townsville
when we purchased it i was home on leave from afghanistan
told scott that we needed it by no later than the 15th dec (today) as i was psoted to Perth and we needed it to drive over
Return from tour and tried to contact him for an update etc etc
like every one else no reply
we paid through Pay Pal so we have lodged a claim for the return of our $$$$ suprise suprise he made contact
now i am fairly easy going and like to give a battler a chance
but he may get a suprise if this trailer is not on my door step by the end of this week
:((
i am glad i went to a war zone did my job so pr*cks like him have the freedom to rip people off
so in a nut shell stay away from these guys

[maddieandjack]

Hey there. Thanks for that info...I agree, this Scott should be exposed. My husband has flown to Melbourne this morning to make certain our camper trailer has everything its supposed to and not back to front.. so to speak!!! If not, we will demand it be as it should before it leaves the yard, or our money back... dont need this crap just before xmas??

So, two big boofy coal miners in Melbourne confronting Scott may not be very pretty... looking forward to the out come and will keep u posted..Cheers

[pjsaurus]

well no worries
Scott called me this morning say he was robbed last night and that my canopy was stolen
considering it should have left yesterday why am i not suprised
if you could please let me know how your husban goes and if you can contact him could you please ask about mine!!!!:U
it is to go to townsville
but i bet my last dollar he did not get robbed
:((

[AlexS]

Pjsaurus,
Ask him which police station the robbery was reported to.

[pjsaurus]

would love to but he won't answer his phone again

[pjsaurus]

the thing is we leave in 6 days and what do i do??
do i buy another trailer in the meantime or do i wait out and hope this bloke comes good???
not taking into account the expense of buying another then the battle to get my money back

[maddieandjack]

This man is unbelievable!!! Hubby gets into Melb at 3pm. Will make contact and let him know of all this...


gee I wonder if ours go lifted... stay tuned guys

[maddieandjack]

pjsaurus....

just informed hubby about the " ROBBERY " and mentioned yor situation..In order for him to perhaps mention you, all i know is your from Townsville, maybe a name or contact number if it allows... not sure how to go about it otherwise

[glock40sw]

Mmmm...Interesting.
Robbed Eh?

Ask about the trailer for Barb249 in Grafton IF you can?

Thanks.

[maddieandjack]

Hubby fronted scott today along with our friend that visited yesterday. Apparrently it was robbed as the police were there at the same time, so at least that bit is true - surprise, surprise.
Anyway our camper trailer is still there and being completed accordingly.
Hubby back there tomorrow for final inspection and hopefully see it get loaded onto a truck. If it wasnt for our friend going there yesterday we would still be trying to get scott on the phone!!!!!
Having hubby there as well, scott hasnt got any other options and no excuses unless there is suddenly a FIRE overnite?? God help me

In saying that it aint over yet and my hubby has till thursday morning or longer if required.

I will forward your details onto him to mention to scott, the mouth would no doubt drop dramatically i would assume...

My only advice otherwise is front him unexpectedly and u may too get results..We didnt need this expense for the cost to go down there but hopefully it will be worthwhile. B in touch ...cheers

[maddieandjack]

pjsaurus....

just informed hubby about the " ROBBERY " and mentioned yor situation..In order for him to perhaps mention you, all i know is your from Townsville, maybe a name or contact number if it allows... not sure how to go about it otherwise
this could get interesting... u may end up with our galvanised trailer ??????

[pjsaurus]

now me ending up with your trailer won't that just beat all lol
thanks for the update i truly appreciate it
we shall see what tomorrow brings shal we
once again thankyou

[maddieandjack]

no worries...WATCH THIS SPACE !!

[beaver00]

Have also been on to Scott today to try and finalise our missing items
To my knowledge and he did tell me a lot of stuff that was stolen, I do believe that no Canopies were stolen... There should be still 5 sitting in the shed.. I would get back on to him and ask which police station it was, then ring the police station and see if he reported any canopies stolen.. I think that you will find that this is another lie..
The tents are a little to Heavy to steal with no-one noticing I think..(unless you have the keys for the gate)
He was broken into but for all the tools and computers to get stolen is ALL to CONVENIENT for my liking. I know every reason he uses and will NOT take anymore ######## from him..
Will Report Him to TAX OFFICE, CURRENT AFFAIR, FAIR TRADING.
Does anyone have an idea on his business partners last nameor phone as the number that I had is now disconnected.... (ROB ???)

[maddieandjack]

TO ALL....

Hubby back into the workshop this morning and nothing has been done since yesterday, this is just all too much!!!

Ive just changed his flight for tomorrow morning till lunchtime, more money, if its not ready he said he will just take it out of the yard.. better to have something rather than nothing if this bastard goes belly up. If thats the case im happy to write a letter to ACA...

Anyway he will call back in this arvo to see if any progress has been made, so once again stay tuned.

[pjsaurus]

i agree that this is all to much
he called me last night saying that the trailer will be delivered to courier today
problem was he had it going to sunshine coast and i am in townsville
i explained that come monday my family and i are living in a motel room until boxing day
then we start our journey to Perth
i honestly do not know what to do but keep calling him and hassel him as much as i can
but i am in townsville and .... well we all know where he is

[acmegridley]

Must be amember of the NRMA you know it pays to be long:rolleyes:

[Bob38S]

Unbelievable :o

How is this bloke still in any sort of business?

I really feel for the stress and hassle that you blokes are going through - I won't even mention the expense. I'm impressed that you are not rolling over and giving up as it is certainly hard - go for it.

I guess that this post is simply to support you blokes and I hope sincerely that you can get it resolved in a timely manner without any further problems.

I'm sure if you were to read this as a writeup for a TV program that it would be as some bizarre comedy.

Regards,
Bob

[glock40sw]

Does any one have Scotts last name???? It stars with M is all I know. He is going to ring me tonight, we will see.

[maddieandjack]

no i dont know... he seems to keep it a bit quiet.
PS no news yet of todays visit. will let u all know asap

[Foo]

I think that the time has past,for being nice to this bloke!:(( As I said earlier in this thread,I have noted on another three forums,how much trouble this bloke has caused,to others waiting for campers.:( Then when they have received their gear,it has been missing a lot of the stuff,that was ordered.:no:
I do hope that everyone gets their gear,but I feel that you will be disappointed in the end.:~

[maddieandjack]

thanks for your support, its enough to make a mini series i reckon!!

[maddieandjack]

hello... yes i agree.. ive heard it all since i have been on these sites since sat and it just doesnt get any better. I wish i had of done it sooner rather than later????
Even if we have a win, win situation, i will still support others in their " AMAZING JOURNEY " and hasnt it been just that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[beaver00]

i agree that this is all to much
he called me last night saying that the trailer will be delivered to courier today
problem was he had it going to sunshine coast and i am in townsville
i explained that come monday my family and i are living in a motel room until boxing day
then we start our journey to Perth
i honestly do not know what to do but keep calling him and hassel him as much as i can
but i am in townsville and .... well we all know where he is


We live on the Sunshine Coast, so if it is coming here maybe we can ick it up for you and forward iton to you or something along those lines. But we were told that our trailers went to Sydney and I rang the trucking compnay and they said there were no trailers sent to Sydney, so it may be another lie. My suggestion is to get a CON NOTE number off him and then ring the truckin company to see if he is telling the truth. The last I heard was that he pwed money to his previous Transport Company and they shut his account..
Anyway any questions feel free to contact me.. GOOD LUCK and just keep persisting, my theory is that he gives the trailers to the most annoying to get them off his back

[rsser]

A netregistry search on his website details shows the following. Thanks to Phil of campertrailers.org for the info.

Registrant

MACKINNON, SCOTT DOUGLAS

Eligibility Type

Sole Trader

Eligibility ID

ABN 82236553830

Registrant Contact ID

INJA1017

Registrant Contact Name

Jai Innes

Registrant Contact Email

[email protected]

Tech Contact ID

C0573762-AR

Tech Contact Name

Dominic Main

Tech Contact Email

[email protected]

Name Server

ns1.auweb.net.au <javascript:whoisQuery('HOST%20ns1.auweb.net.au');>

Name Server IP

202.146.209.1

Name Server

ns2.auweb.net.au <javascript:whoisQuery('HOST%20ns2.auweb.net.au');>

Name Server IP

202.146.209.2

Name Server

ns3.auweb.net.au <javascript:whoisQuery('HOST%20ns3.auweb.net.au');>

Name Server IP

65.99.229.31

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Don't confuse them with Southern Cross at Bayswater.

[pjsaurus]

in all honesty i am at a loss on what to do
i have lodged a cliam through Pay Pal and in fact seeing as he has already withdrawn the money how do i get it back??
next step seeing as it was through a CC will try my bank to claim it back
i am open for any advice or help
will keep an eye on this forum
cheers

[rsser]

I once successfully used the Paypal/ebay claim process to get a refund on goods not supplied, but it took months.

You might also consider the Qld Small Claims Tribunal or maybe better would be the Vic version: click (http://www.vcat.vic.gov.au/CA256DBB0022825D/HomePage?ReadForm&1=Home~&2=~&3=~) Those will take time too and are a last resort when direct negotiations have failed.

Good luck

[beaver00]

in all honesty i am at a loss on what to do
i have lodged a cliam through Pay Pal and in fact seeing as he has already withdrawn the money how do i get it back??
next step seeing as it was through a CC will try my bank to claim it back
i am open for any advice or help
will keep an eye on this forum
cheers


I know it becomes heart breaking, have been in your situation, but really just keep persisting and also start going through the channels to try and reclaim your money back. I rang him constantly 3 times a day till he answered his phone and asked so many questins in the end I think we got our trailer just so he could shut me up.

I spoke to Scott last night and he apoligised to me for all th lies he told me and I just said "Sorry but everything that comes out of your mouth is just ########, it is a little late for apoligies and you need to start making things right for all the other people out there as you have caused alot of ####" Basically I would not believe a word that comes out of his mouth, he is a compulsive liar so just keep persisting and hopefully it will pay off in the long run..

[maddieandjack]

TO ALL:


Hubby visited workshop this morning to check on trailer. It all looks good but we dont have the extra annexe we paid for and the solar panel is not on it. Scott has promised ( yeah i know wot u thinking ) that he will forward them onto us at a later date..this will be enforced by our friend down there who will constantly be checking in on him until that promise has been kept.
My husband is presently on his way back home with truck drivers name and number etc, consignment note, vin numbers etc for rego, and our trailer will be getting loaded this afternoon at 5pm, in the prescence of our friend to make double sure this happens.
Hubby thought it better to take trailer as it is, without the other two things i mentioned, rather than wait any longer to have NOTHING AT ALL....im also happy with that decision.

Hubby has noticed that other trailers have been sent and gone from workshop and mentioned that one may have left yesterday for townsville, i think, but dont quote me for sure, that the truck driver mentioned this to him.

Will post a further update later, but in all honesty, if any of you are in a position to front scott face to face, and what better way, DO IT !!!! At this stage it has paid off for us, but not without further expense and total STRESS, I see it as the only way you may get a result. My husband described scott as a little "SQUID" , with sh-t for brains to match !!! Cheers everyone

[rsser]

Good advice.

And should anyone reading all this start to wonder about what firm to deal with, there are some good forums to seek advice:

welcome to campertrailers.org website home to Australian off road camper trailers since 2001 (http://www.campertrailers.org/)
Forum @ ExplorOz (http://www.exploroz.com/Forum/Default.aspx)
MySwag.org The Off-road Camper Trailer Forum - Index (http://myswag.org/forum/index.php)

Some folk have been happy with their Chinese-made trailer top tents, or tents and Chinese-made trailer components.

In Jan I bought an ex-rental by Johnno's made in Qld. Very good condition and a good mark-down on new. Franchises around the country. Not cheap but then it's v. solid and copes well with Aussie dirt roads.

No connection etc.

[pjsaurus]

cheers thanks for the update
spoke with squidly didly (aka scott) this morning
he gave me a number of a truck driver (bill) who is taking it today
i called him to confirm all this
he was suprised that it was going to townsville as he thought it was brisbane
will call him again tonight
fingers crossed

[maddieandjack]

sounds promising :) might be on the 5pm truck with ours... lets hope

[beaver00]

TO ALL:


Hubby visited workshop this morning to check on trailer. It all looks good but we dont have the extra annexe we paid for and the solar panel is not on it. Scott has promised ( yeah i know wot u thinking ) that he will forward them onto us at a later date..this will be enforced by our friend down there who will constantly be checking in on him until that promise has been kept.
My husband is presently on his way back home with truck drivers name and number etc, consignment note, vin numbers etc for rego, and our trailer will be getting loaded this afternoon at 5pm, in the prescence of our friend to make double sure this happens.
Hubby thought it better to take trailer as it is, without the other two things i mentioned, rather than wait any longer to have NOTHING AT ALL....im also happy with that decision.

Hubby has noticed that other trailers have been sent and gone from workshop and mentioned that one may have left yesterday for townsville, i think, but dont quote me for sure, that the truck driver mentioned this to him.

Will post a further update later, but in all honesty, if any of you are in a position to front scott face to face, and what better way, DO IT !!!! At this stage it has paid off for us, but not without further expense and total STRESS, I see it as the only way you may get a result. My husband described scott as a little "SQUID" , with sh-t for brains to match !!! Cheers everyone

Glad to hear at least you have something to show for your money.
He has promised us to the extra things for our trailers but I dont hold my breath as getting the trailer was like getting blood out of a stone.
I agree with what you said, If you are in a position to visit him do it, otherwise just keep ringing and be a real pain in the bum till he gives you want your entitled to..
Anyway thanks for the update, it is good to know what is going on..

[maddieandjack]

Well here i am again with a story to tell?
picked hubby up at airport at 4.45pm today and hes been on the phone constantly up till now.
No truck at 5pm but was due at 6pm instead..Well guess what - thats not gonna happen either.
We've in in constant touch with truck driver, Bill, who is himself being told a pack of lies from Scott (squid). One lie was that bill couldnt make it at 5pm because he runs a tow trucking business as well... Bill was quite surprised by that!
Scott wont let OUR trailer be picked because he says theres another two that aint ready. WOW really!!! and that the fridge hasnt been fitted in ours also, theres another thing that we may or may not get.....................
The latest from Bill, is he will have someone pick ours up in the morning at 9.30am, this concerns me as it may not be as it was witnessed by hubby and mate today, and may come to us stripped of whatever else.
Bill is just as confused as we all are......All i can say is " another sleepless nite coming on " and know wonder a person drinks..

Keep u all posted, wish i had more positive news... cheers

[pjsaurus]

well i contacted the eight arm slime ball and this is what he said:?
i asked has the trailer left
he said no as he wanted to send 3 of them at the same time in the morning :((
i then procceeded to explain just how deep in the poo i am right now as there is no way i can sort my end out with this trailer and still leave here in townsville and make it in time to Perth for my new posting
he then suggested that i arrange my own transport maybe that will help???:?
so no worries i will just give aus post a call shall i ??:oo:
so i have no other option unless some one knows a company that can deliver this trailer ASAP BEFORE XMASS so i can get it registed , pack it up and head west
I have stated before, i am so glad to have just come back from a war zone so mongrels like this sod can have the freedom to do what they do
honestly i have served my country and busted my butt for who ?? this p$%^K:((
now the flip side is as like the rest of us we have all paid up front and we are the ones who suffer
how does that work???
AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

[dj_pnevans]

I think it is time for you guys to do some thing about this guy. You all have wasted time and money on this tool. Some one ring ACA we all know they help out a lot.Good luck to one and all.
David

[beaver00]

TO ALL:


Hubby visited workshop this morning to check on trailer. It all looks good but we dont have the extra annexe we paid for and the solar panel is not on it. Scott has promised ( yeah i know wot u thinking ) that he will forward them onto us at a later date..this will be enforced by our friend down there who will constantly be checking in on him until that promise has been kept.
My husband is presently on his way back home with truck drivers name and number etc, consignment note, vin numbers etc for rego, and our trailer will be getting loaded this afternoon at 5pm, in the prescence of our friend to make double sure this happens.
Hubby thought it better to take trailer as it is, without the other two things i mentioned, rather than wait any longer to have NOTHING AT ALL....im also happy with that decision.


Hubby has noticed that other trailers have been sent and gone from workshop and mentioned that one may have left yesterday for townsville, i think, but dont quote me for sure, that the truck driver mentioned this to him.

Will post a further update later, but in all honesty, if any of you are in a position to front scott face to face, and what better way, DO IT !!!! At this stage it has paid off for us, but not without further expense and total STRESS, I see it as the only way you may get a result. My husband described scott as a little "SQUID" , with sh-t for brains to match !!! Cheers everyone

Hi All,

Just wanted to make you aware that when we finally recieved our 2 trailers, which arrived at seperate times, one came with a compliance plate which was blank, and the other didnt have a compliance plate at all. Of course we told him about this matter and he was going to post them all the time."of course" I adventually got onto another trailer place in Melbourne who was kind enough to Send me 2 compliance plates filled out as he new about Scott. This made it a little easier to register the trailers. Lucky enough I managed to to get 2 VIN numbers off Sam before she left. Every State is probaably different with registration rules but just thought I would make everyone aware of this matter..

[beaver00]

I think it is time for you guys to do some thing about this guy. You all have wasted time and money on this tool. Some one ring ACA we all know they help out a lot.Good luck to one and all.
David

Here Here!!
I have already contacted Today Tonight, A Current Affair is next on m list.

[maddieandjack]

Count us in... just would rather our trailer first... but its time i reckon!!!!

[beaver00]

Count us in... just would rather our trailer first... but its time i reckon!!!!

Yeah I would rather our missing stuff also..
but when do you call enough is enough
Well I will give him till next week as he said that he will start fixing me up on the weekend and if nothing is done ny then, i will start ringing all the relevant Agencies.

[maddieandjack]

would u rather me contact ACA ? Im more thanhappy to do it tomorrow...Dont quite know where to start the story but i will certainly have a go...cheers

[beaver00]

would u rather me contact ACA ? Im more thanhappy to do it tomorrow...Dont quite know where to start the story but i will certainly have a go...cheers

Yeah I am happy to go along with it. The stress that this has caused my husband and i and all others involved is incredible.
I am sure we can get a few more on board also. Let me know what you would like me to do..
I dont believe that I will see anything on the weekend, it is just that he is just such a good Con Man that you believe what he says, if you know what I mean..it is so frustrating.
Count me in as i have had enough...

[Eastwing]

Hummmm

Have a look at this thread over here, same story

Anyone live near Williamstown Victoria? - ADVrider (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=523595)

[glock40sw]

Hi all, can we get some idea of how many people who have been ripped off by Scott and where we all live so we can talk to ACA as a group. I will start the ball rolling because I have been waiting since August for may camper.

Grafton NSW

[beaver00]

Hi all, can we get some idea of how many people who have been ripped off by Scott and where we all live so we can talk to ACA as a group. I will start the ball rolling because I have been waiting since August for may camper.

Grafton NSW

We ordered 2 trailers and a tent in August just recieved the last of the larger items this week. Still missing our extras and things that were damaged.. We live in QLD. Will PM you our number if you want it.

[pjsaurus]

count me in also
will pm you my details

[maddieandjack]

Mobile number removed...Watson

[maddieandjack]

Just emailed ACA with brief story and asked them to check out this forum.. see what happens

[Rhino_343]

I am another victim of Scotts BS. I have been waiting since August and still dont have mine, my full saga can be read in the link someone posted above which goes to the advrider forums. I also posted on myswag forum. At the moment my situation is that Northline transport have got my trailer in their Perth depot, where they are holding it because it was badly damaged in transit. I am waiting for Scott to do the insurance paperwork. On top of this, all the custom extras I paid for were never fitted to the trailer and the fridge he promised me I highly doubt is onboard either. I can't check though as apparently the keys are missing to enter the trailer and I also doubt it has a compliance plate/vin number, dont know what to do about that... I too had all the same stories along the way as you guys, sent to wrong address way up north, sent to someone with similar name, lost by transport company etc. I too also got the big appology the other day when I was letting him know about the damage to the trailer, 'I am really sorry I have lied to you since day one about the trailer being ready and everything and now I have been broken into and it must be karma for me being such a liar...' yeah whatever now you are trying to make us feel sorry for you?? Looks like still wont have a trailer by xmas and still have got a fight on my hands to get the extras I paid for and get all the damage fixed. This is a terrible situation for all of us and I really hope everyone gets what is owing to them, no one should have to put up with this kind of BS and stress!

[glock40sw]

G'day Rhino.
Yeah. I had a gander at the Other forum you posted on.
There must be at least 20 to 30 people this bloke has ripped off.
The 4x4 forum, The bike forum, The swag forum, The campertrailer forum, and now the woodwork forum.

If he hasn't placed the total refund in our bank by 3pm today, the missus is going to see a solicitor regards fraud and theft and also the police will be involved and seek criminal charges against the bloke. Will see what the legal eagle has to say.

I don't care if he has to sell his house, car, boat, dog, budgie...I will get my money back.

What a lovely way to spend the leadup days to christmas:no:.

[damian]

I have been following this thread, very unhappy for all of you.

Regarding the compliance plate thing, this may be of some use to you who are in qld.

I registered my trailer about 18 months ago. Queensland Transport can issue you a chassis number and sell you a builders plate for about $5, you engrave it yourself and then rego can proceed. This certainly applies to trailers under 750kg atm, and almost certainly for trailers under 1.06 tonne. So if you get a camper trailer, and it lacks the plates, you may be able to sort rego without too much hassle.

Hope that helps.

[Sturdee]

I have been following this thread, very unhappy for all of you.



Me too, it looks like you're dealing with a professional rip off merchant.

From reading all this I think that if you all push hard the company will go into liquidation and you will get nothing and this guy will start up again under a new business entity. I think he is smart enough to have all his assets safely in another legal entity just in case this happens.:((

If any of you paid with a credit card I would contact your credit card company about getting your money back through them and cancel your order, this maybe quicker and prossibly the only way to get your money back.

BTW what made you buy from this guy?

Peter.

[Rhino_343]

Well I just got the brush off again from our friend Scott in relation to doing the insurance paperwork for my damaged trailer... and then he basically ignored me when I was telling him about the missing items I had paid for... he just said yeahyeah we'll sort that... unbelievable. As far as the paperwork goes, he was too busy off site with clients until late this afternoon to look at it and will get to it on the weekend... he is a pathological liar, the lies just roll off his lips with such ease. How can anyone live wit themselves when they have lied so much, does he feel no shame or guilt??
At the end of the day all I want is what I paid for and I deserve to get that as do we all. I then want nothing else to do with this guy ever again. My wife now does not even want to keep the trailer if we ever get it as she feels that there are too many negative feelings associated with it. In fact she is hardly speaking to me anymore she is so off that I bought it in the first place. I bought it so we could spend some quality time together and become closer and it has ended up doing just the opposite. It has ruined one lot of holidays for us already this year and now looks like the Xmas break will be ruined as well... It makes me sad to think that people like this actually exist and effect so many peoples lives in such a negative way and yet they just keep on with their lies and deceipt not caring about the chaos all around them. It is criminal.

[maddieandjack]

hey there, yeah it just doesnt get any better. We wanted a camper also so that we could actually live a little. The only person i am angry with is scott, my husband is really trying hard to sort things out, mind you, i would just rather our money back and start again. The whole excitement of having our own trailer has somewhat diminished !!!
As for our trailer being picked up this morning, yep u guessed it, DIDNT HAPPEN. Scott rang my husband a while ago and said its getting picked up this afternoon.
asked why not this morning and scott had no reply?? Makes you wonder

[Gingermick]

, does he feel no shame or guilt?

no, he doesn't have the emotional armoury to feel those feeling. This (http://www.youmeworks.com/sociopaths.html) is interesting and seems to describe him well.

[pjsaurus]

well spoke with scott this morning he said yeh mate yours is all done waiting on truck driver
so i said you mean bill????
spoke with bill in depth last night and he agrees with all us
he told me if it is good to go he could have it here on my door step BEFORE xmass
so i then said to scott ok mate bill will pick it up now
na mate his partner is picking it up
no worries then so if i call him he will no all about it then??
sure he will
so i call bills partner and first of all he goes " sorry mate you have the wrong number??"
so i call scott back and leave a message once again
so then scott calls back and say's call him now i am sorry he thought it was going to brisbane
hold on i said he told me he knew nothing about picking up anything from you what so ever let alone where it was going
just call him he said
so now all i get when i try bill is message bank
either he has had enough or what ever
who knows

[maddieandjack]

hey there. R u able to call me. My number is in a previous msg. thanks

[pjsaurus]

i too have written to ACA explaining what is going on
please guys if we all do this they may listen
just an idea

[maddieandjack]

hey!! just spoke to hubby, scott informs him that Carl is picking up trailer this arvo. Requested carls number so hubby rang him to confirm this and he said he is on his way there now... due between now and 5.30pm.
Apparently carl was there this morn as arranged thru bill last nite, but scott said he wasnt to take it as their were others that werent finished... sounds like we may be on the same truck.. lets hope.
Ive just this minute insured ours " JUST IN CASE " KEEP U POSTED

[glock40sw]

For your sanity, I hope it IS picked up.
Fingers Crossed:2tsup:

[maddieandjack]

For your sanity, I hope it IS picked up.
Fingers Crossed:2tsup:
LETS HOPE YOUR IS ON IT... if it happens :(

[pjsaurus]

LETS HOPE YOUR IS ON IT... if it happens :(
if it does happen huh:(

[maddieandjack]

if it does happen huh:(
5.30 has come and gone and im still none the wiser.... think ill just have another glass of RED, SIT BACK, SMILE AND WAVE GOODBYE TO OUR TRAILER, AS IM NOT IN THE MOOD FOR ANOTHER EXCUSE !!!

[maddieandjack]

5.30 has come and gone and im still none the wiser.... think ill just have another glass of RED, SIT BACK, SMILE AND WAVE GOODBYE TO OUR TRAILER, AS IM NOT IN THE MOOD FOR ANOTHER EXCUSE !!!
JUST BEEN INFORMED BY MY HUSBAND THAT THERE ARE 3 TRAILERS GETTING PICKED UP AS I SPEAK. Ours, according to scott, has everything but the extra annexe,,, forgive me if i dont sound very excited as im not... as tomorrow will be another story as today may have been another lie!!

[Gaza]

i wish everyone the best in this situation, its so hard to save money these days let alone lose it to idots like this.

by the sounds of it could be 30 or 40 people who have been hit by this bloke.

[snapman007]

My wife now does not even want to keep the trailer if we ever get it as she feels that there are too many negative feelings associated with it. In fact she is hardly speaking to me anymore she is so off that I bought it in the first place. I bought it so we could spend some quality time together and become closer and it has ended up doing just the opposite. It has ruined one lot of holidays for us already this year and now looks like the Xmas break will be ruined as well...

It's not your fault. Send her in for a bid forum :hug:group hug.

[AlexS]

I feel very sorry for you all. Fortunately, I have no involvement, but can I suggest that you get everything you can from this con now. I would bet that he has debts everywhere. He will shut down for Christmas and vanish, never to be seen again.

Sorry, but that's the way it seems.

[maddieandjack]

Does anyone actually know the correct transport company scott uses as i would really like to know myself.
Rang a bloke named ' Mohammad " this morning as he was the one that supposedly picked up 3 trailers last night, he not only couldnt tell me anything but i couldnt understand a word he said. The trailers could end up in bloody India???
Thought Bill might be of assistance but hes not answering his phone??
I cant believe how the transport of these trailers, in the space of 3 days, has gone from Bill, then to Carl and now Mohhammad????
Lord help me

[pjsaurus]

have you tried scott again???
why does this not suprise me :~

[maddieandjack]

have you tried scott again???
why does this not suprise me :~
have u got scotts number? hubby has all the paperwork and hes underground

[beaver00]

Does anyone actually know the correct transport company scott uses as i would really like to know myself.
Lord help me

He used to use a Transport comapny called NORTHLINE, but to my knowledge they have suspended his account as it is unpaid, so he cant use Northline at the moment. ("That is only hear say") Northlines Number is 1300 722 534

[pjsaurus]

hey just got back .... any luck????

[redback3030]

Unbelievable, l ordered camper 10th Oct09, advised Scott that l would like it to be delivered, registered in the New Year. He rang on the 17th Dec saying that he had been robbed but all was ok for delivery on the 4th Jan. l will give him untill the 10th Jan
if no success l will not be mucked around will be taking legal action straight away, if that does'nt work l have some pretty big mates and l live only 15 minutes away.

[Joandchris]

My Husband & I have been watching this forum for a week now & would like to share with all you wonderful & honest Aussie's our camper story. Back in October 4th my husband rang me at work & informed me that he had bidded on a (Southern Star Camper). I quickly told him that we could NOT afford a camper(would Love one)BUT... My husband rang me again & informed me that we were the proud owners of a "CAMP TRAILER"which was 100%feedback on e-bay?????? (paid -bank transfer, in full* Stupid Husband) Well this is where the NIGHTMARE started. after 8 weeks & no camper,wondered where it was. Scott sent a camper which got damaged on transport, but WOW was not in our name, it was Robert's.........2nd camper sent for us 4 weeks later,yep!!!! you guessed it , damaged again...........MMMMM with no battery charger,tool box wrecked,jockey wheel bent,no compliance plate, (hard to register)trailer cover ripped(which ripped through to the canvas & flyscreen) oh yeh fridge thown in, did'nt sweeten us at all . YOU GUESSED IT (Tent on back the bloody front) Scott said take it back to transport company to send it back..... NO WAY. You send us a Undamaged one up (with 100ltr water tank,not 60lt as in this one,we paid extra for a 100 ltr ).Guess what "NO new camper arrived .Contacted ,(well tried) to contact Scott every day.we finally decided (after a lot of sleepless nights & off sessions) that an agreement was made with Scott that he would send us replacement parts and money to get our camper fixed,,,,,,,, guess what, NO money,No parts, Still bustard #### camper,BUT we did get a compliance plate & 1000 phone calls,,,,, my husband has learnt never to trust anymore........... cheers & happy christmas fellow campers........

[pjsaurus]

best of luck mate
mine is suppose to be on it's way
we shall see

[maddieandjack]

Unbelievable, l ordered camper 10th Oct09, advised Scott that l would like it to be delivered, registered in the New Year. He rang on the 17th Dec saying that he had been robbed but all was ok for delivery on the 4th Jan. l will give him untill the 10th Jan
if no success l will not be mucked around will be taking legal action straight away, if that does'nt work l have some pretty big mates and l live only 15 minutes away.
hey there. Its probably to your advantage that u live so close. Personally speaking, I would be constantly checking in to see your trailer being put together, piece by piece.
The rest of us dont have that option, so it seems squid seems to prey on others that live inter-state??

[Big Shed]

Could we please keep the violence out of this thread?

If that trend continues we will have no option but to close this thread.

The admins/moderators have been very flexible here, but despite several warnings and deleted posts the message does not seem to reach certain people:(

[glock40sw]

Ok..

[pjsaurus]

have u got scotts number? hubby has all the paperwork and hes underground

have you heard anything as of yet???
i can't get through to anyone:((:no:

[glock40sw]

Haven't heard anything since Friday. And that wasn't any different to previous conversations with the individual.

[maddieandjack]

have you heard anything as of yet???
i can't get through to anyone:((:no:
no nothing. Hubby tried earlier today to contact all 3 truck drivers, and no-ones picking up.Makes me wonder who else is in on this whole mess..Unfortunately the mind starts to wonder and feel u cant trust anybody...??

[snapman007]

Try phoning from a different number, i'd say he's screening the incoming call numbers.

[maddieandjack]

Try phoning from a different number, i'd say he's screening the incoming call numbers.
been there? done that??

[pjsaurus]

well i got an email from ebay in regards to our claim
basically if he cannot submit proof that it is being delivered then the claim will be ruled in our favour
but yeah i have been trying to call as well
they either do not work weekends ( hard to believe being transport company) or once again crock of poo
again:(( and again and again and again:no:

[maddieandjack]

well i got an email from ebay in regards to our claim
basically if he cannot submit proof that it is being delivered then the claim will be ruled in our favour
but yeah i have been trying to call as well
they either do not work weekends ( hard to believe being transport company) or once again crock of poo
again:(( and again and again and again:no:
yeah.. thats all im after.. proof from someone reputable.