Southern Star Campers

[pjsaurus]

well finally got hold of Carl
he recons it is in brisbane but unable to deliver to townsville until sunday
we shall see

[Katherine1]

Thank you for responding. Luckily we have a friend that lives near this company that will be paying a visit this morning. Like you say, i will be getting on to ebay, dep of fair trading, and who knows, if there is enough of us to lays complaints in regard to Scott and this so called company, I am willing to contact A Current Affair. Lets see what happens this morning???

My advice after long and frustrating transaction is to proceed with legal action. I live in Melbourne and have had misfortune to visit his factory on 10 different occasions. Arranged to pick up on 8 different occasions without luck. This man is the most consistent liar I have ever met and what sounds valid is generally incorrect. Word around is that he is going under with not only business problems but all sorts of other issues including legal. Also heard that he only manufacturers trailers to those who have only paid deposits. Beware also that you dont get a bolt together trailer that he has started to sell to meet demand. He may also try to palm off smaller tents. Best of luck it sure has been an unforgettable 13 weeks dealing with this looser.

[maddieandjack]

My advice after long and frustrating transaction is to proceed with legal action. I live in Melbourne and have had misfortune to visit his factory on 10 different occasions. Arranged to pick up on 8 different occasions without luck. This man is the most consistent liar I have ever met and what sounds valid is generally incorrect. Word around is that he is going under with not only business problems but all sorts of other issues including legal. Also heard that he only manufacturers trailers to those who have only paid deposits. Beware also that you dont get a bolt together trailer that he has started to sell to meet demand. He may also try to palm off smaller tents. Best of luck it sure has been an unforgettable 13 weeks dealing with this looser.
hey there. whaat is your current situation with southern star campers? Are u waiting on a trailer, have you received a trailer that wasnt up to standard or have u started legal action.
Are you still dealing with him?
Be good to know... cheers

[Katherine1]

hey there. whaat is your current situation with southern star campers? Are u waiting on a trailer, have you received a trailer that wasnt up to standard or have u started legal action.
Are you still dealing with him?
Be good to know... cheers
I got a trailer 3 weeks ago with wrong tent on. Took it back then he sold it to someone else, after I had registered it. Spent the last 2 weeks trying to pick up another trailer on daily basis. In the last 2 weeks I have heard every excuse under the sun.
I picked up the trailer on Saturday after waiting there for 6 hours and treatening to call police. I hope to never see him again.
If I was from outside of Melbourne I think this would have been impossible.
He has changed his mobile new number is 0413 913975

[maddieandjack]

I got a trailer 3 weeks ago with wrong tent on. Took it back then he sold it to someone else, after I had registered it. Spent the last 2 weeks trying to pick up another trailer on daily basis. In the last 2 weeks I have heard every excuse under the sun.
I picked up the trailer on Saturday after waiting there for 6 hours and treatening to call police. I hope to never see him again.
If I was from outside of Melbourne I think this would have been impossible.
He has changed his mobile new number is 0413 913975
yes theres a heap of us that live interstate so as you could imagine it has been very difficult for all concerned..Pleased you have got something in the end.
His mobile is the same number we hae hadall this time.Theres not one person out there thatthinks any different of this person we are all dealing with.
cheers

[bobsreturn2003]

sound like a job for consumer affairs , debt collectors or police . all or some of wich may hopefully be of some use to you . best regards Bob

[maddieandjack]

talk to everyone tomorrow... as im about to take charge???? in a big way??? come 9.30am bring it on.. im not one to be messed with and im such a nice person...hope u all get to meet me oneday as i think it wouod be great... cheers L

[Katherine1]

My advice after long and frustrating transaction is to proceed with legal action. I live in Melbourne and have had misfortune to visit his factory on 10 different occasions. Arranged to pick up on 8 different occasions without luck. This man is the most consistent liar I have ever met and what sounds valid is generally incorrect. Word around is that he is going under with not only business problems but all sorts of other issues including legal. Also heard that he only manufacturers trailers to those who have only paid deposits. Beware also that you dont get a bolt together trailer that he has started to sell to meet demand. He may also try to palm off smaller tents. Best of luck it sure has been an unforgettable 13 weeks dealing with this looser.
Unfortunately after my experience a visit will achieve very little, he will lie, and very convincingly. Throw everything at it. I wrote a letter of demand - had no effect. As previously posted I visited his factory 10 times and yelled and screamed at him - little effect. He even phoned me one time and apologised for his lies and stuffing us about them immediately lied again, of which I caught him out. One of his techniques is to offer extras to soften you up and appear like he is doing you a favour - dont believe it, it doesn't exist. Just get what you paid for. I even said to him at one stage to give me a trailer minus kitchen and I would get my own. He rejected offer as the trailer was never going to get to me. As I stated previously I was foolish to pay in full and it was clear that he was only producing trailers for those who had paid deposits to maintain cash flow and stuff those who had paid in full. Fortunately at the 11th hour we got our trailer (minus the 12 volt system) therefore our family holiday can go ahead (leaving boxing day).
Southern Star Campers will not exist for much longer and already he is selling on ebay under another name. Believe it, this guy is the worst type of businessman and preys on people who are decent and trying to create experiences for themselves and families.
Good luck all, I am on leave from this Thursday through to mid Jan but will check in at some stage.

[pjsaurus]

Well as of today my family and I have no home and are living in a motel room
what can I say .... We should be on the road heading west spending quality time together
catching up from the months and months I spent away
I got nothing.
I feel I have let them all down
I am left with Jack and have no hope left at all
thanks Scott. Thanks a lot.

[pjsaurus]

What name is he trading under now ?
Wouldn't mind playing games with him

[Ozkaban]

Well as of today my family and I have no home and are living in a motel room
what can I say .... We should be on the road heading west spending quality time together
catching up from the months and months I spent away
I got nothing.
I feel I have let them all down
I am left with Jack and have no hope left at all
thanks Scott. Thanks a lot.

That's bloody terrible. I don't know what to say to that. Sounds like maybe you need to find a motel out the front of his factory and camp out in his driveway. If the squeaky wheel gets the oil from this fool, then squeak like mad!

Cheers,
Dave

[glock40sw]

What name is he trading under now ?


I wouldn't mind knowing either, as there are a few sellers on there.
As of tomorrow, I have 3 weeks holidays. Might fly to Melbourne, hire a campervan and squat out the front of his place.

[maddieandjack]

HEY THERE EVERYONE... DO ME A FAVOUR AND READ THE FOLLOWING:

Scott hasnt come good this morning with anything, wont answer the phone etc etc.Even Carl, the truck driver is no help.
We gave Scott till 12 oclock today so now its in the hands of the Williamstown Police 03 93939555. They have other complaints as well but unfortunately they cant do much. They have advised that we all get together on this and each lay a complaint with Consumer Affairs Victoria.Im currently doing this as we speak. Also advised to report it to your local police station.
We have reported ours as MISSING.
Please take the time and fill in the Consumer Complaint form asap, the more of us that do this something is bound to happen.
Thanks guys

[Katherine1]

I filed complaint with Consumer affairs 2 weeks ago. Letter of demand sent. Somehow the authorities need to go in, but I now have my trailer and I understand that Scott owes money all over town. I am happy to proceed with police action but generally creditors will be paid first and that will not help those who dont have trailers. I think scott is aware of this and knows for most they want to get their product and get out of there. I Certainly experienced this on Saturday when I started to make a fuss and another customer was there to pick up his trailer. When he found out I had been waiting 7 weeks longer than him for my trailer he closed up and all of a sudden become scotts best mate. Strange! As I said I am on leave until mid Jan but happy to pursue legal action regarding this then. Have no time left before xmas thanks to the amount of time wasted with that idiot.

[beaver00]

[
Please take the time and fill in the Consumer Complaint
Link is below
Consumer Affairs Victoria - Online - Make a complaint (http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/CA256EB5000644CE/page/Listing-Online-Make+a+complaint?OpenDocument&1=Home~&2=~&3=~&REFUNID)=~

[pjsaurus]

I will be pursuing the consumer protection avenue also
though we just got an email from pay pal saying that he has
proven the trailer has been sent
funny thing is I have not seen any of this proof

[AlexS]

[QUOTE=pjsaurus;1083248... we just got an email from pay pal saying that he has
proven the trailer has been sent
funny thing is I have not seen any of this proof[/QUOTE]
Contact Paypal disputing this and advise that unless you get a refund you will be pursuing legal action against them.

[Ozkaban]

I will be pursuing the consumer protection avenue also
though we just got an email from pay pal saying that he has
proven the trailer has been sent
funny thing is I have not seen any of this proof

I'd dispute this too. If the guy is claiming to prove delivery when he hasn't, I'd imagine that it becomes fraud as much as anything else. I'd be pushing paypal pretty hard - I reckon it's your best bet.

Cheers,
Dave

[jane-darren]

Hi, I am in Vic and am having dealings with these people to. I am in a little bit of a different situation as I have offered to pay cash on delivery, so they seem to be keen for my business. I was concerned as they have been deregistered from ebay, I have a mobile contact for cameron but was wondering if you had any other contacts and their address.
Thanks so much Jane

[maddieandjack]

Hi, I am in Vic and am having dealings with these people to. I am in a little bit of a different situation as I have offered to pay cash on delivery, so they seem to be keen for my business. I was concerned as they have been deregistered from ebay, I have a mobile contact for cameron but was wondering if you had any other contacts and their address.
Thanks so much Jane
my advice is do not buy off southern star campers either directly or via ebay.

[pjsaurus]

I would strongly urge you to stay away from them
they have been nothing but dodgey as
please you do not need the stress.
I would recomend GIC trailers.
I found out last night Scott used to buy these trailers
from gic. Change a few things then sell them under his name
but he never paid his bills so they stopped supplying him
I have found out heaps about this guy
sure you may get it bit do not rely on any support
he is about to collapse.
Stay away honestly.

[Rhino_343]

Well mine is finally due to arrive today, it is coming on a small truck from Perth. It was badly damaged on the large truck across the Nullabor. So at the moment, I have a badly damaged BASIC model trailer being delivered, when I paid for a Delux model and also paid for lots of add on extras (none of which have been fitted or included) At this point in time I do not know if the trailer has a compliance plate or not?? I have called Scott numerous times over the last week pleeding with him to fill out the insurance claim form that was emailed to him and he has refused to spend the 5 mins it would take to do this (well he lied to me over and over that he had done it and then admitted he hadnt looked at it) I have waited 5 months for the trailer and he cant take 5 mins to fill in this form... instead he said to me, "Just take the trailer to a local place and have it repaired and then get them to call my mobile and I will give them my credit card to pay for the repairs and I will sort it out with the insurance company later" I nearly fell on the floor laughing that he expected me to believe that one!!!! Holy Crap this guy is full of it! So I now have to organise major repais to my trailer, add all the extras that werent included myself and hope like hell that there is a compliance plate... this saga never ends. I hope Karma kicks this guy in the face. What kind of scum bag wont fill in a insurance claim form??

[Rhino_343]

Well my trailer is finally at my house! Even the unloading was a drama though. Now the trailer itself, apart from the damage and missing bits, looks like a good thing, pity Scott cant just be straight with people and deliver when he says he will because his product is pretty good and he could be making a good reputation for himself instead of running his name into the ground...
There is just one huge big NEW problem to deal with now... he never attached a compliance plate/vin number so it cant be licenced. I just spoke to him and he has promised to post one express post today... heard that story before one too many times though... Anyone know how to get around not having a compliance plate? How can you get one, or does it have to come from Scott?
I will try and up;load some photos of trailer and damage later.

[maddieandjack]

Well my trailer is finally at my house! Even the unloading was a drama though. Now the trailer itself, apart from the damage and missing bits, looks like a good thing, pity Scott cant just be straight with people and deliver when he says he will because his product is pretty good and he could be making a good reputation for himself instead of running his name into the ground...
There is just one huge big NEW problem to deal with now... he never attached a compliance plate/vin number so it cant be licenced. I just spoke to him and he has promised to post one express post today... heard that story before one too many times though... Anyone know how to get around not having a compliance plate? How can you get one, or does it have to come from Scott?
I will try and up;load some photos of trailer and damage later.
pleased to hear u have it, finally, but the dramas just dont stop do the....
Funnily enough, we have a Vin # but no TRAILER. Ive even insured the bastard... all for what???

[beaver00]

Well my trailer is finally at my house! I will try and up;load some photos of trailer and damage later.
Glad to hear it fianlly got there..

[Foo]

Register it as a home made trailer

[maddieandjack]

Register it as a home made trailer
thats what my husband mentioned to me also

[pjsaurus]

Glad to hear that mate that you finally got it
the best thing you could do is go to transport and say you built it yourself
that way you get plate and vin # etc
I take it your in WA ?
I know you can do that in QLD
all it will take is a phone call I mean there are heaps of people in WA that do build own trailer
good luck

[watson]

G'day,
Haven't stepped in before, but I asked the Trailer Guru about compliance plates, and this is straight gen.


Basically, VIN numbers are given by the registering authorities in each state to the manufacturer of the trailer. However they are a Nationally recognised VIN number, so registering them in another state should be no drama. The reason VIN numbers are registered with the manufacturer is because the manufacturer is always legally responsible for the structural integrity of the trailer irrespective of subsequent owners. (barring any lack of maintenance or accident damage)

So, those who do finally get their camper trailers, but with no VIN plates, as long as they have the VIN number, they can buy their own VIN plate, put the details on it, and get it registered.
BUT... those that don't get VIN numbers, either have to try and get them from this Scott person, or have to try and get one from their own local authority by stating that they were the manufacturer, but this then makes them responsible for the trailer.

My other concern would be if he's using the same VIN number for numerous trailers... this would open an entirely different can of worms... __________________

So that's the word.

[glock40sw]

Maddieandjack.

Any sign of your trailer?
Wasn't today D-Day?

[maddieandjack]

G'day,
Haven't stepped in before, but I asked the Trailer Guru about compliance plates, and this is straight gen.


Basically, VIN numbers are given by the registering authorities in each state to the manufacturer of the trailer. However they are a Nationally recognised VIN number, so registering them in another state should be no drama. The reason VIN numbers are registered with the manufacturer is because the manufacturer is always legally responsible for the structural integrity of the trailer irrespective of subsequent owners. (barring any lack of maintenance or accident damage)

So, those who do finally get their camper trailers, but with no VIN plates, as long as they have the VIN number, they can buy their own VIN plate, put the details on it, and get it registered.
BUT... those that don't get VIN numbers, either have to try and get them from this Scott person, or have to try and get one from their own local authority by stating that they were the manufacturer, but this then makes them responsible for the trailer.

My other concern would be if he's using the same VIN number for numerous trailers... this would open an entirely different can of worms... __________________

So that's the word.
thanku for your good advice, much appreciated... but can anyone tell me where do we go from here??? apart from wait!!!!
I feel i have used all avenues and quite confident #### will hit the fan very soon, im not one to give up...cheers

[pjsaurus]

Well. Mine is suppose to be here today sometime

[beaver00]

Well. Mine is suppose to be here today sometime

Fingers Crossed....

[pjsaurus]

Got a call from driver. Trailer is 2 hrs away
I hope
let's see what we get

[Foo]

Lets hope it is!

[maddieandjack]

Got a call from driver. Trailer is 2 hrs away
I hope
let's see what we get
how was IT?????

MERRY XMAS EVERYONE

[beaver00]

Merry Xmas to all. Have a great day and I hope all your wishes come true!!!

[glock40sw]

Yep. Merry Christmas to All.
I hope everyone gets what they Want.

I hope a certain person gets what they deserve....:2tsup::D


BIG SHED....It's in Jest...Lighten up...:D

MaddieAndjack.

No contact tonight. So not sure about the upcoming dates..

[pjsaurus]

Well where do I start. No fridge no solar panel
no stove
plumbing for water not done
battery box not even wired up
loose bolts etc
rough as guts gal job
wires hanging everywhere
dented water tank guard
no mudflaps
chains bolted to hitch using same bolts to hold hitch
no dust seals
need I say more

[Ozkaban]

Wow, that's not much of a merry christmas...

There's some big ticket items missing there. Hope you get some recourse.

Cheers,
Dave

[alsosuckedin]

Hi there, have just read with interest the whole 10 pages on Southern Star Campers. We too have done our money. Three weeks of being lied to, messed around, fobbed off. We actually asked for our money back (in person), given a cheque because he had no computer to transfer funds back into our account - and yes, you guessed it, the cheque has just bounced. We are furious. Could someone tell me how we can contact ACA or Today Tonight to add ourselves to the list? This weazel needs to be publicly shamed. Cheers.

[pjsaurus]

Just go to their web site
however that us what I did and got nothing
I got my trailer in Thursday but have spent all day today
fixing it
rewired lights ,electric brakes , fixed up water tank, fixed up all
the loose nuts and bolts fixed up kitchen
redid hand brake cables
and still have not even open up tent
we where supposed to be on the road west today , then tomorrow , but now Wednesday
plus did not get fridge ,solar panel, stove , boat rack oh did I mention battery box not even wired up ?

[beaver00]

Today Tonight Website

Contact form for Today Tonight on Yahoo!7 (http://au.todaytonight.yahoo.com/contactform/suggest-story)

A Current Affair Website

ACA > Your Feedback (http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/feedback/default.aspx?formid=228)

Sorry to hear your story. Unforunatley I think there are alot of us around..

PJSARUS, hope you have notified PayPal of this matter as you should be entitled to some sort off refund due to the trailer not being complete.

P.S - Hope everyone had a merry xmas.

[maddieandjack]

Yep. Merry Christmas to All.
I hope everyone gets what they Want.

I hope a certain person gets what they deserve....:2tsup::D


BIG SHED....It's in Jest...Lighten up...:D

MaddieAndjack.

No contact tonight. So not sure about the upcoming dates..
okie dokie. found out yesterday. let u know.
hope u all had a good xmas
cheers

[penny153]

Sorry to hear about every one else, I am another victim joined because of this thread. We paid $6100 in August through ebay / paypal and have been waiting ever since. Today I lodged a compliant with consumer affairs VIC and also contacted today tonight via the link posted. I waited so long because I heard they were such good quality trailers, & thought this guy was just a bit green in the business department, and maybe a bit behind in orders. Not happy here at all.

[penny153]

cheers thanks for the update
spoke with squidly didly (aka scott) this morning
he gave me a number of a truck driver (bill) who is taking it today
i called him to confirm all this
he was suprised that it was going to townsville as he thought it was brisbane
will call him again tonight
fingers crossed

You must have mine, Scott promised mine was leaving with a 'Bill' on the 16th of Dec. We live in Brisbane.....he never did ring me back with bills number though...

[maddieandjack]

Sorry to hear about every one else, I am another victim joined because of this thread. We paid $6100 in August through ebay / paypal and have been waiting ever since. Today I lodged a compliant with consumer affairs VIC and also contacted today tonight via the link posted. I waited so long because I heard they were such good quality trailers, & thought this guy was just a bit green in the business department, and maybe a bit behind in orders. Not happy here at all.
Hey there.... the line just gets longer and longer ay!!! The more complaints to ACA etc etc, lets hope someone out there will finally listen

[penny153]

Hey there.... the line just gets longer and longer ay!!! The more complaints to ACA etc etc, lets hope someone out there will finally listen

I listed a complaint with today tonight, should I go to a current affair too?

Lets hope someone does something. I had all the SAME excuses listed before, wrong delivery name, damaged trailer returned for repairs, blah blah, finally he rang on the 15th of Dec and apologised, admitted on the phone that he had been lying for months and then tried to offer me a new top of the range model at no extra cost if only I would wait till Jaunary. I politely declined this offer and reminded him he said my trailer had already left..... again....

This whole mess has hit our family hard.... We were so excited about camping regularly in our own trailer, now every time I think about camping I get stressed. There is a feeling in the pit of my stomach that will not go away....

[maddieandjack]

I listed a complaint with today tonight, should I go to a current affair too?

Lets hope someone does something. I had all the SAME excuses listed before, wrong delivery name, damaged trailer returned for repairs, blah blah, finally he rang on the 15th of Dec and apologised, admitted on the phone that he had been lying for months and then tried to offer me a new top of the range model at no extra cost if only I would wait till Jaunary. I politely declined this offer and reminded him he said my trailer had already left..... again....

This whole mess has hit our family hard.... We were so excited about camping regularly in our own trailer, now every time I think about camping I get stressed. There is a feeling in the pit of my stomach that will not go away....
Yes by all means go to ACA... i have and others have followed, the more the better.
Everybody has been hurt by this individual with our own stories being very much the same.
Its just a matter of time...... dont give up!!!!!!

[Master Splinter]

I hate to be a wet blanket, but going through ACA/TT is one of those 'feels good but won't accomplish much' activities, aside from perhaps some footage of Scott giving some snake-oil answers for the camera and walking away.

It's clear that Scott really doesn't have a business/personal reputation that he worries about so the naming and shaming approach of these programs is pretty much water off a duck's back to him.

Worst that can happen with this is that businesses that he is dealing with for parts see that his business is shaky and refuse to supply him on credit, meaning his ability to complete any trailers under construction would be pretty limited, and could even cause him to declare bankruptcy - then you guys (as unsecured creditors) would be last in line to pick the carcass of his no-doubt assetless (tools got stolen, shopfront is rented, vehicle is leased, business name has no goodwill) business.

You'd all be better off checking with VCAT (http://www.vcat.vic.gov.au/CA256DBB0022825D/page/About+VCAT?OpenDocument&1=10-About+VCAT%7E&2=%7E&3=%7E) and seeing what action you can bring against him via small claims - this is a cheap ($40 if your claim is under $10k) lawyer-less process, and at the end of the day you have an enforceable undertaking against him, so you can at least cause him some minor inconvenience.

If you are determined to do the ACA/TT approach, ignore email and instead phone either the producer(s) of the shows or the on-air journo(s) and try to get their interest in the story. (just use the general switchboard number for the station and ask for Tracy Grimshaw or whoever is on-air at the moment - best time to call is sometime between 9-10am).

Now, don't expect them to actually do much research - be prepared to hand them a story on a platter (especially at this time of year) - make sure you have a list of all the people who have been getting the runaround from Scott, have all their dealings with Scott detailed, have a list of prospective on-air talent with location and photo ready to send to them if they are interested (so they can see if it's possible/worthwhile to get a camera crew out there) and be prepared to sell them a story - it's not "I've been ripped off, and so have these other people...", but "Shonky business has been destroying the holiday plans of everyday Australians over Christmas by not delivering on its promises" (cue vid of emotional mother with upset young kids in shot).

(Please excuse my media cynicism)

[underfoot]

Now, don't expect them to actually do much research - be prepared to hand them a story on a platter
(Please excuse my media cynicism)
Nailed it MS !
firstly, ...nothing shouts louder than the media.(use this to your advantage)
secondly.....the media likes nothing better than a well worded press release dropped straight in their lap. ( short, sweet, 3 second grabs from a whole bunch of people who have been ripped off) DRAMA, a dodgy salesman they can chase down the street,
I get the feeling that this is all that is left available to you folks.
surprisingly enough, it can often end in a desired result.(particularly when their house is on the line)
good luck everyone involved.

[maddieandjack]

bring it on... we're READY.......... who's IN ????

[beaver00]

bring it on... we're READY.......... who's IN ????

I say Bring it on also!!
He needs to be shown for the scum that he is, so hopefully he can not start up somewhere else and do it to more innocent people...
COUNT ME IN!!

[beaver00]

You must have mine, Scott promised mine was leaving with a 'Bill' on the 16th of Dec. We live in Brisbane.....he never did ring me back with bills number though...

I think that everyone that has recieved a trailer has recieved someone elses trailer..
As the story is that if you walk in with CASH he will selll you the trailer that is in the workshop weather it is going to Townsville or Brisbane, that is why it takes so long for people to get there trailers.. ALL us silly people that took him for an honest bloke and paid in full are suffering as a result as he already has our moneyand does not give a s**t, so he gives our trailers to people that walk in with cash, if you get my drift..
Nothing but a lying con man..

[maddieandjack]

Hey good stuff... where's everyone else thats complaining...STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND LETS ALL ROAR... DONT JUST BITCH and sit back AND WHINGE... THAT AINT GOOD ENOUGH...
if you mean what you say... DO IT - AT WHAT EVER COST.. WE HAVE AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.... not one for being ripped off...JUST DO IT
ps.. NEED CONTACT NUMBERS TO DO SO...i FEEL LIKE I STARTED THIS, AND IM QUITE HAPPY TO FINISH IT... nothings over till the fat lady sings..( and I aint fat ) :)

[beaver00]

You'd all be better off checking with VCAT (http://www.vcat.vic.gov.au/CA256DBB0022825D/page/About+VCAT?OpenDocument&1=10-About+VCAT%7E&2=%7E&3=%7E) and seeing what action you can bring against him via small claims - this is a cheap ($40 if your claim is under $10k) lawyer-less process, and at the end of the day you have an enforceable undertaking against him, so you can at least cause him some minor inconvenience.

)

Thanks for your Post MS, all info is muchly appreciated.. Thanks again

[glock40sw]

Has anyone else had a phone call from our mate Scott today???:o

[beaver00]

Just a warning to all that have recieved their trailers and also to those who will hopefully recieve them in the near furture.. Check you wheel Nuts and Wheel Bearings are done up properly and they have grease in them. Ours were loose and lucky enough we checked as the tyre may have fallen off or badly damaged the bearings during travelling..
Just go over them with a fine tooth comb and make sure all is done up properly..

[beaver00]

Has anyone else had a phone call from our mate Scott today???:o

Still waiting as usual... :oo:

Got my phone bill today and it is 4 times higher than usual, just from trying to get incontact with the squid...

[maddieandjack]

Not getting any response,,,WHERE R U ALL??? COME ON..Time is of the essence ( so they say ) BRING IT ON BABY... I KNOW YOUR OUT THERE???

[maddieandjack]

Still waiting as usual... :oo:

Got my phone bill today and it is 4 times higher than usual, just from trying to get incontact with the squid...
CANT WAIT FOR MY PHONE BILL??? call u soon

[Gaza]

just a question has any one gone to his workshop and demanded on the spot a trailer or a cash refund.

if i was involved in this i would just go and sit there with a couple of "large friends" he must have some cash hidden away, bad luck if he has to take it out of his own bank account.

[chubby123]

Hi all,
We to have been conned, lied to and manipulated by this man to. Unfortunatley for us we paid up front the full amount for our trailer back in september this year. As we live in the Pilbara region of WA we were promised and organised to pick up our trailer in perth on the 30th Nov. After several attempts through phone calls and emails, after lots of emails and text messages between us and Scott we were promised that it would be there next week. Nope didnt happen.:((
He agreed to give us our money back as we were travelling to NSW for Xmas and he would get it to us in time. Organised a payment scheme for him.............NO MONEY:~
Reckons he put the money in the bank ....took him two weeks to chase it up ,,,surprise surprise he put it in the wrong bank account.

We ended up having to stay in hotel that were 3 x dearer than the camp sites we had booked to get over to NSW. He was still ringin us right up to the night before Xmas eve "yep mate definatley put money in the bank"......
:oSurprise surprise rings my husband on Xma eve and tells him that he hasnt put money in the bank .......doesnt have it and wont have it until after 4th Jan 2010.

The fact that we have lost our money and have no trailer is bad enough but what really ##### us is that our family has had to miss out on things during our family holiday because this slimy man has kept our money and lied to us. that sucks

As an aussie you try to do the right thing and buy australian made and support small aussies businesses........and this is what we get in response to that support :no:

I have never met a man who has so many excuses, lies and stories to tell. We to were told about the break in but i wonder if it is just not someone like the rest of us who are peeved taking the equivalent of what is owed to them in tools and other things etc.:~

We have now engaged a legal firm to get our money back and make this little man be responsible for his actions. Scott is very careful in what he writes in response to our emails ( if he answers them) however he has led several messages on my husbands phone stating that he has lied to us from the start.

We to will be contacting the media to let them know what he is doing. I am happy to join in any group approach to the media.

[beaver00]

Found a new Ebay listing that is squidley is trading under again..

Squid has a new ebay lisiting again..

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190361306903 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190361306903)

[maddieandjack]

Hi all,
We to have been conned, lied to and manipulated by this man to. Unfortunatley for us we paid up front the full amount for our trailer back in september this year. As we live in the Pilbara region of WA we were promised and organised to pick up our trailer in perth on the 30th Nov. After several attempts through phone calls and emails, after lots of emails and text messages between us and Scott we were promised that it would be there next week. Nope didnt happen.:((
He agreed to give us our money back as we were travelling to NSW for Xmas and he would get it to us in time. Organised a payment scheme for him.............NO MONEY:~
Reckons he put the money in the bank ....took him two weeks to chase it up ,,,surprise surprise he put it in the wrong bank account.

We ended up having to stay in hotel that were 3 x dearer than the camp sites we had booked to get over to NSW. He was still ringin us right up to the night before Xmas eve "yep mate definatley put money in the bank"......
:oSurprise surprise rings my husband on Xma eve and tells him that he hasnt put money in the bank .......doesnt have it and wont have it until after 4th Jan 2010.

The fact that we have lost our money and have no trailer is bad enough but what really ##### us is that our family has had to miss out on things during our family holiday because this slimy man has kept our money and lied to us. that sucks

As an aussie you try to do the right thing and buy australian made and support small aussies businesses........and this is what we get in response to that support :no:

I have never met a man who has so many excuses, lies and stories to tell. We to were told about the break in but i wonder if it is just not someone like the rest of us who are peeved taking the equivalent of what is owed to them in tools and other things etc.:~

We have now engaged a legal firm to get our money back and make this little man be responsible for his actions. Scott is very careful in what he writes in response to our emails ( if he answers them) however he has led several messages on my husbands phone stating that he has lied to us from the start.

We to will be contacting the media to let them know what he is doing. I am happy to join in any group approach to the media.
Phone number deleted as per request. Added by .

[dj_pnevans]

Found a new Ebay listing that is squidley is trading under again..

Squid has a new ebay lisiting again..

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190361306903 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190361306903)
If you have a look at his feed back you will find out he is selling clothing.
David

[maddieandjack]

oh god help me

[maddieandjack]

my phone aint ringing... :(

[beaver00]

If you have a look at his feed back you will find out he is selling clothing.
David

Yeah he is now hiding behind his Sister/Mums account..
But I will flush the con man out

[Mr Brush]

I would have thought that a complaint to eBay might at least stop him trading there?

The approval rating of his current username clearly has nothing to do with the business he is now carrying on. Might help to mention that he has been reported to the authorities by numerous angry customers......

[Black Ned]

I have been watching with interest this camper saga and I find it very strange that no one appears to want to get involved and assist maddie&jack in taking on Southern Star with the media.
I thought volunteers took one step forward not backward when asked to step up.

[maddieandjack]

I have been watching with interest this camper saga and I find it very strange that no one appears to want to get involved and assist maddie&jack in taking on Southern Star with the media.
I thought volunteers took one step forward not backward when asked to step up.
Here! Here! Thankyou

[beaver00]

I have been watching with interest this camper saga and I find it very strange that no one appears to want to get involved and assist maddie&jack in taking on Southern Star with the media.
I thought volunteers took one step forward not backward when asked to step up.

I think that there are some people out there that are scared. But my main reason for doing this is to put a stop to him selling anymore trailers to innocent people and getting ripped off like we did..

I think people are scared as they think they may not get there trailer if they speak up..
Well I hate to say it, but I think that there is a big chance that no one will be getting there trailers and if they do, it may take up to 12months, and we all know he will not be here then. He is just robbing Peter to pay Paul at the moment to keep his head afloat.
Yes we all need to take stand and bring this Conman down. Also lets not forget his business partner Rob who has also played a part in this big mes.I think it is disgusting and cant not imagine how someone could treat people like this.. They have no remorse in how they have ruined alot of peoples xmases. and I hope karma catches up with both of them oneday.

"Scott" - I know that you are reading this and I truly DO NOT know how you sleep at night!!!

So lets all get aboard and put a STOP to this conman ruining anymore peoples lives..

[Black Ned]

Scott and Rob most probably are homeowners. If you all get your fingers out and combine your efforts you may be able to have their assets taken to fund your campers. You must climb out of the trench and do your own fighting for your rights - don't leave it up to a few.

[beaver00]

Here are the links again..


Today Tonight Website

Contact form for Today Tonight on Yahoo!7 (http://au.todaytonight.yahoo.com/contactform/suggest-story)

A Current Affair Website

ACA > Your Feedback (http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/feedback/default.aspx?formid=228)

Victoria Consumer Affairs

Consumer Affairs Victoria - Online - Make a complaint (http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/CA256EB5000644CE/page/Listing-Online-Make+a+complaint?OpenDocument&1=Home~&2=~&3=~&REFUNID)=~

Williamstown Police Station..
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[beaver00]

Here is another Link.

I am sure the tax office will love to hear about all the cash dealings Scott and Rob have done.
THe business's ABN for reference is 82236553830

Australian Tax Ofice
13 28 61.

[chubby123]

Hi Maddy,

I am certainly interested in following through with contacting the media. I wil contact you some time today or tomorrow and would love to chat with you.

Kel

[beaver00]

Happy New Year to all!!
Hope everyone has a nice New Year and 2010 brings all of our wishes!!!

[maddieandjack]

Yes.... Happy new year everyone

lets see what 2010 brings

cheers

[maddieandjack]

hi maddy,

i am certainly interested in following through with contacting the media. I wil contact you some time today or tomorrow and would love to chat with you.

Kel
yes please do

[Daddles]

I don't suppose you can provide plans for a Southern Star Trailers voodoo doll so we can all make one and start jabbing rusty nails into it :wink:

It's been a hell of a read - I've been following the saga for a few weeks now. I hope you sort something out and the perpetrators get well and truly perped for their efforts.

Richard

[maddieandjack]

I don't suppose you can provide plans for a Southern Star Trailers voodoo doll so we can all make one and start jabbing rusty nails into it :wink:

It's been a hell of a read - I've been following the saga for a few weeks now. I hope you sort something out and the perpetrators get well and truly perped for their efforts.

Richard
Hey there stranger, yes its been an ecxiting journey hasnt it.
Thanks for kind words, and yes, its all just a matter of time
Cheers!!!! :)

[pjsaurus]

As I have stated on more than one occassion
I am prepared to back up my statements and help out
anyway I can
been to media both shows etc
spoken with people in person and they know who I am talking about
yes volunteers do step up not back
And I refuse to step back
my contact details have been given

[maddieandjack]

WOW... hasnt this forum been quiet of late... must be calm before the storm :)

[glock40sw]

Yeah. Very Quite.
I've been looking at flights to Melbourne and car hire.
I can get a one way hire of a ute to Tow my trailer (Any trailer he has at the factory) home.

Hell. I might even bring one of the local coppers with me so ensure that Everything I do is Legal. I have proof of purchase that I will be bringing and the police will be aware of this paperwork.

The 8th is coming up fast....

[maddieandjack]

Sounds like a plan... go u good thing ;)

[maddieandjack]

call me when u can pls 0429 498 277
Have not yet heard from u.. call me asap

[maddieandjack]

yes please do
call

[maddieandjack]

Hi Maddy,

I am certainly interested in following through with contacting the media. I wil contact you some time today or tomorrow and would love to chat with you.

Kel
call

[beaver00]

WOW... hasnt this forum been quiet of late... must be calm before the storm :)

Yeah and when the storm hits it will be one hell of Thunder Clap...

[maddieandjack]

Yeah and when the storm hits it will be one hell of Thunder Clap...
Bring it on baby................:)

[beaver00]

Bring it on baby................:)

Hey There Guys, Will give you a call 2morrow sometime..

[beaver00]

Found this post over at 4WD Action Forum, How true!!!

"Anyone dealing with southern star campers.....get legal advice, these guys are going down, get your money...if it means turning up at their
doors...do so, grab whatever you can or else you will end up with nothing."

"BE WARNED....SCOTT..SOUTHERN STAR CAMPERS ARE RIPPING PEOPLE OFF....SOME PEOPLE GOT WHAT THEY WANTED WHILE 95% HAVE NOTHING.......THIS GUY IS A CON MAN. "

Some peope just sum it all up!!!
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[maddieandjack]

look forward to it...cheers :)

[unhappycamper]

We too have been stuffed around by this con..Scott. bought camper in august through ebay and have nothing to show. He has said he will give a refund but we still havn't seen that yet either. I have been through ebay which sent me to a police website to fill out a statement to send to the VIC police which I am sending tomorrow, and have also contacted dept of fair trading who has sent out paperwork to take it to tribunal, which i will be also doing. I'm at the point where I will do almost anything to get a result. I'm in for going to the media....BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!

[dazzler]

Hi All

sorry to see the difficulties you are experiencing. I had similar problems however I was lucky enough to get my money back.

see here;

southern star camper???? (http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=3845.0)

Best of luck to you all.

[beaver00]

We too have been stuffed around by this con..Scott. bought camper in august through ebay and have nothing to show. He has said he will give a refund but we still havn't seen that yet either. I have been through ebay which sent me to a police website to fill out a statement to send to the VIC police which I am sending tomorrow, and have also contacted dept of fair trading who has sent out paperwork to take it to tribunal, which i will be also doing. I'm at the point where I will do almost anything to get a result. I'm in for going to the media....BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to hear that you are another victim.
If you can fill your info through the A Current Affair Website that would be great. The more people and complaints that A Current Affair recieve the more likely they are to do a story..

[beaver00]

Hi All

sorry to see the difficulties you are experiencing. I had similar problems however I was lucky enough to get my money back.

see here;

southern star camper???? (http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=3845.0)

Best of luck to you all.

Glad to hear that you got your money back..
Unfortunaltly there are still alot of people out there that still have nothing and some that have something and are still missing items,Also some that have recieved trailers that need to be fixed.
Thank you for your post as we re interested to know how many people he has actually conned or tried to..
So to everyone else out there, it would be great to hear from you all...:)
Thanks again

[maddieandjack]

Hi All

sorry to see the difficulties you are experiencing. I had similar problems however I was lucky enough to get my money back.

see here;

southern star camper???? (http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=3845.0)

Best of luck to you all.
Hello fellow tasmanian

Would b interested to know how u got your money back :)
Cheers

[maddieandjack]

Hi All

sorry to see the difficulties you are experiencing. I had similar problems however I was lucky enough to get my money back.

see here;

southern star camper???? (http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=3845.0)

Best of luck to you all.
PS... thanks for the other link of which i know about. Theres a lot of unhappy people on there as well.
Bad enough following this forum let alone another one!!!!