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gemi_babe
4th August 2004, 01:08 PM
Hi Noora,

From one female to another...

How did you come across this site? Did you type something into a search engine?

I must say I am impressed by a non english speaking friend to be able to type it fluently. How do you manage? Well done!:)

Regards,
Gemi

Gumby
4th August 2004, 01:24 PM
Hi Noora,

From one female to another...

How did you come across this site? Did you type something into a search engine?

I must say I am impressed by a non english speaking friend to be able to type it fluently. How do you manage? Well done!:)

Regards,
Gemi

Hi Gemi,

If you read all the posts, you'll find Noora has answered that question.
She typed in 'Autralian Forums' in Google, scrolled past 3 pages of entries, got to the bottom of page 4 and found us..............hmmmm

cya,
Sceptical Gumby

silentC
4th August 2004, 01:41 PM
Woodwork Forums - powered by vBulletin
... TRITON OWNERS/USERS (3 Viewing). A forum for Triton owners and would be owners. ... and get opinions from fellow users of these excellent, all Australian, products. ...
Is that you, Kenmil?

:D :D :D

AlexS
4th August 2004, 02:21 PM
Hi Noora,
First, congratulations on entering the forum and contributing, rather than playing games.
Most of us are living in (but not necessarily born in) Australia, and there is a wide range of social customs and acceptable behaviour, especially on the internet. If something offends you, please accept that it is almost certainly not meant to be offensive - the moderators will jump on that pretty quickly. Try to learn from what you find unusual, and hopefully we will also.
I guess that by comparison with many cultures, we are brash and tactless. On the other hand, we sometimes find them indirect to the point of seeming to want to hide something. (This is not directed to your culture, just some I have come into contact with.)
Keep contributing to this forum, take up woodwork if you can, and hopefully we will learn something from each other.

Rocker
4th August 2004, 02:49 PM
Incidentally, what did kenmil do to get banned? Somehow, he and Noora seem to have rather different personalities :D

Rocker

Wild Dingo
4th August 2004, 03:09 PM
You fellas believe this Noora charector? strewth :rolleyes: I was skeptical on page 1 and remain so... but what a hoot of a thread :D :D :D :D {thats 4 smiles instead of thumbs ups}

Gumby
4th August 2004, 03:24 PM
Incidentally, what did kenmil do to get banned? Somehow, he and Noora seem to have rather different personalities :D

Rocker

I didn't know kenmil got kicked. I haven't seen any posts which would warrant that sort of reaction.

Ivan in Oz
4th August 2004, 03:33 PM
I didn't know kenmil got kicked. I haven't seen any posts which would warrant that sort of reaction.

What did he do/
What would one have to do to warrrant that?

I don't want to go down the same path; not yet :rolleyes:

Count

craigb
4th August 2004, 03:33 PM
Kenmil never got banned. He left of his own accord.

Christopha
4th August 2004, 04:17 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

RETIRED
4th August 2004, 04:22 PM
Kenmil never got banned. He left of his own accord.

Correct.

He asked that all his posts be deleted. This was not done as it throws the continuity of answers right out of whack. You only have to see what effect that Stoppers had when his posts were deleted.

If a thread is started by a member the whole thread is deleted and a lot of valuable info is lost.

craigb
4th August 2004, 04:50 PM
You only have to see what effect that Stoppers had when his posts were deleted.



You only have to remember what effect Stoppers posts had when he was around. :eek: :D :D

(For those who joined after he left, lets just say he was one of a kind - and I mean that in the nicest possible way, honest :p )

Rocker
4th August 2004, 04:51 PM
I stand corrected. I coulda sworn I saw the word banned somewhere though :)

Wild Dingo,

You may be right. But I can't see what motivation anyone would have for posing as Noora. On the other hand, I would thought she could have found more exciting people than us to chat with if she went onto a chat channel. But maybe she is not familiar with IRC.

Rocker

DaveInOz
4th August 2004, 05:57 PM
For those who joined after he left, lets just say he was one of a kind )

HA! thats the best laugh I've had in ages - wadda ya recon Christopha, stoppers was one of a kind, or one of a pair LOLOLOLOLOL :D

Sturdee
4th August 2004, 06:17 PM
Noora,

When you first introduced yourself I was happy that a young female from an Arab country, with a woodworking interest, wanted to join and participate in this woodworking community.


But as further posts elicited more information my interest changed from being happy to being intrigued to plainly being bored with these posts. :(

I am not interested in a debate on whether you are an Omani or a Saudi, or if you drive or not, or if you study during holidays, or if women who dance are immoral ( my wife dances and she is definitely not immoral :mad: :mad: :mad: ) or hearing songs or reading poems. My interest in this board is primarily regarding woodworking and not having chats with immature adolescents regarding poems and songs. :eek:

BTW the freedom of Arab women is not even close to what our women have.

So whilst I welcome you to this board until you wish to discuss woodworking I will ignore future posts and so say goodbye.




Peter. ( who is to busy building a woodshed to have time for silly prattle.)

ubeaut
4th August 2004, 06:21 PM
Rocker - Kenmill spat the dummy as did Doorstop. However, in Kenmills case we at least had control over the state of disrepair his dummy spit would leave the forums in.

As said, deleting posts from a long time contributor can completely stuff up a whole heap of threads. We weren't about ho have that happen again so we chose one of the two options open to us.

There are two ways to keep threads of a member who has (for want of a better word) resigned. One is to have their posts show as those of a guest. However there's no way Kenmill will be welcome as a guest by any of the administrators or moderators of these forums so I chose the alternative and labelled him as banned.

Funny isn't it, the two people that both and myself have saved from serious law suits both spat the dummy over something trivial.

Neil

PS if you want to see Kenmils reason for leaving (dummy spit) do a search for "farewell", you won't find the offensive stuff that was deleted but then again you won't find any of the really offensive stuff as it is deleted before many people get a chance to see it and be offended. Goodonya .

PPS If you want to see Doorstop's reason of the dummy spit......... bad luck nothing of his remains, he eradicated himself completely, except for a few alter ego's

kiwigeo
4th August 2004, 09:17 PM
u mr .. not me :)

why do u talk to me like that mr kiwigeo??

what did i do to u ?? :(

i respect u and i hope u tp respect me plz :(

Can I ???
Hello Noora,

Im not quite sure how I have offended you but apologies are offered if I have.

What I was trying to say was that you are a lucky person if you have time during your university holidays to spend time doing things apart from university work. When I was at university we had "holidays" but for me it was a time to cram for examinations and work on field projects. I also had to work at a job to get money to help pay for my studies.

So no disrespect was intended.

These forums are great fun but you have to keep in mind that you're communicating using only one medium..the written word. Its not quite the same as talking face to face with a person....its especially the case when youre dealing with Australians and New Zealanders and our sometimes "öff beat" sense of humour.

Anyway I hope you wont let my comments scare you off....

Martin

noora
4th August 2004, 10:15 PM
Hello Noora,

Im not quite sure how I have offended you but apologies are offered if I have.

What I was trying to say was that you are a lucky person if you have time during your university holidays to spend time doing things apart from university work. When I was at university we had "holidays" but for me it was a time to cram for examinations and work on field projects. I also had to work at a job to get money to help pay for my studies.

So no disrespect was intended.

These forums are great fun but you have to keep in mind that you're communicating using only one medium..the written word. Its not quite the same as talking face to face with a person....its especially the case when youre dealing with Australians and New Zealanders and our sometimes "öff beat" sense of humour.

Anyway I hope you wont let my comments scare you off....

Martin
a'salamu Alaikum Mr // Martin :)

u don't know that i'm working now
but in my house
i like designing and drawing arabic font .. from this i get money
i pay for my study by working in my house :)

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I pay for the net not my Dad ..
i depend on my self

he teached me self-made ... :)

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i'm a writer in an arabic newspaper :)
i'm also an editor of an academic magazine in my university

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i do all of this work in my home and during my recess!! :)

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noora :)

Robert WA
4th August 2004, 11:03 PM
Noora.

A question.

I travel in my work and drive from where I live in Albany to a town almost 500 ks east called Esperance. If you have a map of Western Australia you will find both places on the south coast of the State. The trip is through farm country and some National Park areas.

Along the way I pass a large farm that is stocked with strange looking sheep. I am told they are "Arab" sheep. They have dirty grey/brown wool or hair that looks more like that of a goat than of the sheep that are normally farmed here, and they have fat tails.

Someone told me they are Awassi sheep but I don't know if that is right. I thought that Awassi sheep were a milking sheep, while these sheep seem to be bred and raised for their meat.

Can you tell me what they might be? I don't know if your part of the Arabic world has native, or domestic, sheep.

kiwigeo
4th August 2004, 11:30 PM
a'salamu Alaikum Mr // Martin :)

u don't know that i'm working now
but in my house
i like designing and drawing arabic font .. from this i get money
i pay for my study by working in my house :)

(SNIP)

i'm a writer in an arabic newspaper :)
i'm also an editor of an academic magazine in my university

i do all of this work in my home and during my recess!! :)


You sound like a very busy person.

Interesting that you work for an arabic newspaper. Do you have access to newspapers from Australia and other parts of the world?

A question I guess some of us in this forum would like to know is what is your impression of Australia?

kiwigeo
4th August 2004, 11:41 PM
Noora,

I went to a friend's 65th birthday party a few months ago. My friend, who is Scottish, played the bagpipes, and his wife, who is a few years younger than he is, danced. We all admired her energy and fitness, but we did not consider her immoral :)

Sounds like that was one hell of a shin dig. I fancy myself as a bit of a musician myself but whenever I drag my trumpet out at a party nobody starts dancing....the first thing that happens is the dog dissapears behind the nearest sofa with its tail between its legs and then Im usually hastily ejected outside by SWMBO.

Wouldnt mind picking up the bagpipes.....thats the only other instrument I can think off that would strike terror into guests at a party as you dragged it out.

The last time I saw the pipes being played was down in Bass Strait afew years back.....I was out on an Esso platform during a raging southerly storm and there was this crazy scotsman up on the helideck blowing away on his pipes.....if Id have had my horn with me Id have gone up and joined him.

kiwigeo
4th August 2004, 11:46 PM
Might as well carry on with the Scottish theme....a funny story from my wife.

My wifes friend came back from a tripo back to Japan recently and found that her Scottish husband had re-painted the kitchen. She was most impressed but a bit puzzled as this chap usually a hopeless lay about around the house and is barely capable of looking after himself with SWMBO away.

Anyway the truth soon came to light....the unfortunate chap had put an egg on the stove to boil and gone out and forgotten it. When he came back the kitchen was on fire and once he'd extinguished the conflageration the walls had changed from cream to a lovely soot black.

gemi_babe
5th August 2004, 12:14 AM
Thanks for answering the question about how noora came to this site.
rather odd :confused:

I'm a bit skeptical also.

Never seen nor heard of arabians, Omani's etc jumping on forums before the gulf, so why now?

Maybe noora is one of your past drama friends.....the ones that want nothing at all to do with the site again, but can't seem to stay away???

I have seen that happen before on a yahoo forum.

I wish I never read this thread....LOL

kiwigeo
5th August 2004, 12:21 AM
Thanks for answering the question about how noora came to this site.
rather odd :confused:

I'm a bit skeptical also.

Never seen nor heard of arabians, Omani's etc jumping on forums before the gulf, so why now?

Maybe noora is one of your past drama friends.....the ones that want nothing at all to do with the site again, but can't seem to stay away???

I have seen that happen before on a yahoo forum.

I wish I never read this thread....LOL
Was skeptical too but less so now.....

Give her credit though...I think she has a genuine desire to find out a bit about us antipodeans and that cant be bad.

One things this forum does seem to have is a good mix of people from all walks of life (one of the great things about woodies Ive found).

noora
5th August 2004, 01:47 AM
You sound like a very busy person.

Interesting that you work for an arabic newspaper. Do you have access to newspapers from Australia and other parts of the world?

A question I guess some of us in this forum would like to know is what is your impression of Australia?Good evening mr // Martin

I don’t know a lot of information about Australia

I like watching TV<O:p..
And I always watch <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:place>ur</ST1:place></st1:City> prisadent John Haward .. in the political magazines the writers call him subordinate of Bosh !!!<O:p..

I knew also the Minister of Foreign Affairs in Australia Alexander Downer<O:p></O:p>

I knew also Minister of Defense Robert Hill..<O:p</O:p

The Australian Army in <st1:country-region><ST1:place>Iraq</ST1:place></st1:country-region> is about 880 soliers...<O:p</O:p

I watched also the exploding in Bally Isand :( ... It was shame :( ....<O:p</O:p

I wanted to knew !! Is the Australian punch as It's government ??!!...<O:p</O:p

Espacially whan I knew that the Ameriacan punch is not as It's government....<O:p</O:p

The American punch is tooooooo friendly ??!!...<O:p</O:p

<O:p...........

I asked my self !! Is the autralian punch friendly ??!!<O:p</O:p

I don’t know any one from <st1:country-region><ST1:place>Australia</ST1:place></st1:country-region> so I wrote Australian foeums in order to meet the commons not the government !! :) <O:p</O:p

From about 2 weeks I heard about a huge demonstration in Melborn ..<O:p</O:p

It was in front of the British Consular<O:p</O:p

This Australian demonstration was made against the occupation forces and to exert pressure on the Australian Government to take the Australian Army out of <st1:country-region><ST1:place>Iraq</ST1:place</st1:country-region><O:p</O:p

<O:p</O:p
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I want to know <st1:City><ST1:place>ur</ST1:place></st1:City> real thinking and to know more about civilization I saw <st1:City><ST1:p</st1:City>ur ages<O:p..

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52 … 41… 63<O:p></O:p>

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most of u r older than me and have more wisdom ..<O:p></O:p>

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so I contact these forums<O:p></O:p>

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My Brother ((Osama)) studied in <st1:country-region><ST1:pAustralia</ST1:p></st1:country-region><O:p></O:p>

He told my that mostly !! the Austrlian Punch is friendly and quite ..<O:p></O:p>

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I can participate in British , American forums !!<O:p></O:p>

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But I'm determined to know more about u with discussions <O:p></O:p>

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Last year I participate in an international conference for the youth .. I met many guys around the world :) <O:p></O:p>

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Any way I'll leave these forums bcoz I'll travel to Makkah in <st1:country-region><ST1:place>Saudi Arabia</ST1:place></st1:country-region> .. for Omrah .. May Allah forgive my faults :) <O:p></O:p>

I want to have a rest alone :) <O:p></O:p>

<O:p></O:p>

I also want to know more about kangaroos <O:p></O:p>

Hahahahaha ,, I have never see a kngeroo .. just in the zoo :D <O:p></O:p>

I heard that an Australian nongovernmental organization protest against killing kangaroos . :D . <O:p></O:p>

Have u eaten meat of kangaroos before?? <O:p></O:p>

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<st1:City><ST1:p</st1:City>ur young sister<O:p></O:p>

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N0o0o0ora <O:p></O:p>


:)

Robert WA
5th August 2004, 02:27 AM
Kiwigeo.

Another trumpet player here. Well, I was. I gave it up many years ago as I was never going to be as good as I wanted to be.

Two problems with trumpet.
Too loud, and muted sounds terrible.
You can't accompany your own singing.

kiwigeo
5th August 2004, 02:42 AM
Noora,

Your last posting was very long and Im afraid I dont think I can really answer all our questions....Im at work at the moment and answering all your questions would get me in trouble because I wouldnt have any time for my job.

I can give you personal opinions in response to some of your questions but keep in mind that Im only one person and others in their forum will have different opinions...its the great thing about a democracy that you are free to say what you think and we dont all think the same.

On your question about eating kangaroos.....I can tell you that Ive eaten kangaroo and its lovely!

Im ashamed to say that sometimes when Im at home my wife and I sometimes play tricks on the Japanese guests that sometimes visit our house. First we take them to a local wildlife park and show them the kangaroos and they get to feed and pat them.

Later on in the day we usually have a barbeque.....and we cook some kangaroo meat. When our guests ask us what sort of meat they are eating we tell them it is one of the kangaroos from the wildlife park.

Most of our guests soon realise that we are joking but sometimes a guest will stop eating the kangaroo meat and suddenly look very worried.

Okay I have to get to work here......hopefully some of the other people in the forum will provide you with some answers to your questions.

Martin

kiwigeo
5th August 2004, 02:52 AM
Kiwigeo.

Another trumpet player here. Well, I was. I gave it up many years ago as I was never going to be as good as I wanted to be.

Two problems with trumpet.
Too loud, and muted sounds terrible.
You can't accompany your own singing.
Hi Robert,

I should have given the horn up years ago as well but Ive never been one to give up in the face of an impossible task. I play very badly but blowing your frustrations through a piece of brass plumbing is the way to go.

Agreed on the trumpet being loud but I dont think its too loud. Totally disagree with your feelings on a muted horn. My Harman mute gets so much use it doesnt stay in the bell without being hammered in with a mallet...scares the hell out of my wife when it falls out. Anyway as you can see from the quote at the bottom of my postings Im a Miles Davis nut and if you dont like muted horns then youre not very likely to like MD.

Accompanying your own singing?? Mmmmmmm....cant do that with any wind instrument....but why do you need to sing?...the horn is singing for you. In my case Im sure most people would rather listen to my attempts at mastering the trumpet than my singing.

kiwigeo
5th August 2004, 02:58 AM
Mmmm..am looking at this thread. Most of it is certainly nothing to do with woodworking.....

So far weve had religion..politics....sheep....trumpets..bagpipes...dancing...kangaroos...banned members....Oman..Saudi Arabia....

Anything we havent covered?

Ivan in Oz
5th August 2004, 08:03 AM
Woodwork


or, Might it be Woody work the way some are going.


When I last looked Noora hadn't cntributed to anywhere other than where she started..............

Count

kiwigeo
5th August 2004, 08:22 AM
Woodwork


or, Might it be Woody work the way some are going.


When I last looked Noora hadn't cntributed to anywhere other than where she started..............

Count
Youre entitled to your opinion Ivan....do you think we shouldnt be responding to her postings?

Noora probably isnt contributing alot to the furtherment of woodwork with her contributions but Im learning a bit about Omani people from her postings. Shes 17 and has a young persons view of the world....but hey we were there once ourselves.

The above is just MY opinion of course.......

Ivan in Oz
5th August 2004, 08:33 AM
Nothing against her,
it's just that Noora seems to be in the wrong forum.
OK
If she is seen to be taking an intrest in a bit of wood work
and then goes off on a Tangent, No Wuckers

"Do I ever go off topic? I ask you?"

ALL the Time, but I'm here mainly for the wood work

Count

kiwigeo
5th August 2004, 08:34 AM
Woodwork

or, Might it be Woody work the way some are going.


When I last looked Noora hadn't cntributed to anywhere other than where she started..............

Count
Ive noticed youve taken the trouble of checking out this forum so you must be at least half interested in whats been going on in here.....:)

As for Woody work.....Im into my 3rd week out on an oil rig populated by blokes and totally devoid of timber apart from the odd pallet or two.....this forum is one of my lifelines to sanity.

Bob Willson
5th August 2004, 02:51 PM
Aha, now we know why so much interest in a 17 year old girl. :)

Christopha
5th August 2004, 04:50 PM
Keerist! I reckon you're all a buncha pervs!!!!
Give it a rest and ignore the cranky sheila......

ý‡¿ØÞ
5th August 2004, 05:10 PM
Look humans, the fact is I am from a planet whose name cannot be spelt in your languages, and in order for you to say it I would have to dislocate your jaw and sever your vocal cords.

The point is all humans are a self important joke.

You don't even realise that your species was genetically engineered by what you call water in order to provide the only thing it lacked, mobility.

If some one is or wants to be known as a 37 y/o sea turtle who the hell are you to say they aren't / can't. Humans are so full of themselves.
If they are, then you might learn something, if they aren't then look how clever they are and how much fun they are having.

If I had a mutated optic nerve and associated cleaning fluids I would cry laughing at your inability to detect alternate realities.
Let me dumb it down for you......
If you believe it, then it is true for you.
You chose what to believe.
THUS you chose your own reality.

So who says your reality is better or more real than anyone else's
Now go back to your amusing manipulation of carbon structures:p

ý‡¿ØÞ (noun)
ΨΦΩξδζЮĦЩЉian for one who gets lost in Oz and calls himself Dave.

silentC
5th August 2004, 05:19 PM
So they have drugs on your planet too, huh? :rolleyes:

ý‡¿ØÞ
5th August 2004, 05:36 PM
The magnificent euphoria of the emotional contact of our species can not be substituted for by 'drugs'. Drugs are universally the invention of lower order species with isolated emotional awareness.

I understand your reliance on mind altering substances to substitute for true emotional conectivity, I have studied your 5 pitiful senses, and reaslise they are purely physical and you have my pity.

Grunt
5th August 2004, 06:40 PM
This <strike>thread</strike> <strike>forum</strike> board is getting weirder by the minute.

RETIRED
5th August 2004, 07:37 PM
I have to agree Grunt.

I am astounded at the intolerance of some of you. 17 or 70, male or female, white, black, yellow, green or purple, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, atheist or plain bloody heathen, every one has a right to post here provided they follow the rules.

I moved this thread to here as it is in an appropriate forum NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH WOODWORK.

The fact that someone wants to learn about OUR country is gratifying.

We are supposed to be the most racially tolerant people in the world and whilst I agree with some sentiments posted about having to alter things to suit minority groups, it is the law, so be it.

ubeaut
5th August 2004, 08:34 PM
140 posts and 2,724 views at the time of this posting. :eek: This would have to rate as one of the all time best posts and it's in a forum titled NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH WOODWORK. Maybe we are running the wrong kind of BB.

:confused: I can't understand why some are so hot under the collar because a young girl wants to chat about a subject that isn't woodworking related.

Take a look at the forum heading again it's NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH WOODWORK.

Jeez!!!!!!!

kiwigeo
5th August 2004, 09:35 PM
Maybe we are running the wrong kind of BB.

Dont change a thing.....I love this whole BB the way it is.

Gumby
5th August 2004, 09:50 PM
[QUOTE=]I have to agree Grunt.

I am astounded at the intolerance of some of you. 17 or 70, male or female, white, black, yellow, green or purple, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, atheist or plain bloody heathen, every one has a right to post here provided they follow the rules.

QUOTE]

, you are confusing intolerance with scepticism. There is a big difference.

RETIRED
5th August 2004, 10:17 PM
I don't think so.

Gumby
5th August 2004, 10:22 PM
I repect your right to be wrong. ;)

kiwigeo
5th August 2004, 10:29 PM
, you are confusing intolerance with scepticism. There is a big difference.

Alot of scepticism going on but I dont know about intolerance.......probably more a reluctance to listen to a young arab woman's perception of our country and some of the issues going on in the world today.

If people in here think Noora's totally off the target with her perception of Australia and the world outside her country then maybe we should do something about it....like sharing OUR perceptions of our own country with her.

On the scepticism issue....I have to admit I was sceptical at first and maybe Noora did give the impression she was interested in woodwork when she first started posting here. Maybe that was the only way she could think of getting a thread going......it was after all the first time she'd participated in a non arab forum.

I suspect by now some people in here think Im a middle aged perv whos gone sex mad because he hasnt seen a woman for 3 weeks and the rest of you probably think Im Al Queda's Australia Press Attache.....might be a good time to sit back for a bit and just watch the postings. Got work to do anyway.

kiwigeo
5th August 2004, 10:34 PM
Drugs are universally the invention of lower order species with isolated emotional awareness.

Hey Silent...hes comparing you to a nematode. Them's fighting words!!!

RETIRED
5th August 2004, 10:59 PM
[QUOTE=]
QUOTE]

, you are confusing intolerance with scepticism. There is a big difference.

Gumby, I just reread all the posts and you might be right but I am not confused. I was not talking about racial intolerance.

The point is that because of scepticism there has been intolerance towards her and in some cases downright rudeness.

Gumby
5th August 2004, 11:27 PM
The point is that because of scepticism there has been intolerance towards her and in some cases downright rudeness.

I agree to a point but when I read her email address (since deleted) she lost me completely. From that point on I did not believe she is who she (or he) purports to be. That is definitely not an address that would be used by a respectful 17 middle eastern female.

journeyman Mick
5th August 2004, 11:54 PM
Australians believe that they are a tolerant society, and (as far as I can tell) this seems to be so. At any rate we're generally easy going. However just because we think we're tolerant and easy going doesn't mean the rest of the world thinks so. Looking at this thread, I started thinking that maybe we're not as tolerant as we think we are, at least this little slice of our greater society. And what do others think of us?
I'm sure most Americans don't think that they are loud, pushy, crass or insensitive, however that's how a lot of the people in the tourist industry around here percieve them to be. In today's global political climate it certainly wouldn't hurt for us as a nation, and as individuals to closely examine our PR image, and where ever possible, to foster more harmonious relationships. We all belong to some group or subgroup: family and friends, local community, internet community, global community.
I'm not always interested in all the forums on this BB, but I choose not to visit those, or, if I do I only lurk (just in case I miss out on some interesting exchange :) ) If you're interested, join in, if you're not, then don't. If you're sceptical about a person's bona fides then just lurk. Most fakes will trip themselves up and make fools of themselves. Besides a few people pushing their barrows of ware most people have been tolerated, even some rude ones. There's been a few people in the past on this board who've said some pretty silly things about woodworking and machinery but people have tolerated them.
So, why can't this person be tolerated? Because she's younger/female/has poor English skills/doesn't seem to be interested in WW? None of these attributes has prevented others being made welcome in the past. There's been quite a few younger members, there's a few females (I always look forward to Jackiew's posts), Soundman's and Al's spelling (amongst others ;) ) has been criticised but they're still made welcome (not to mention Captain Crabtree :D ) and there's probably 100s of posts from SilentC, BitingMidge and others that don't pertain to woodworking at all, yet where would we be without them?
And as for scepticism about a person's real identity, well I don't use my real name online and you just have to take my word that I'm a 42 year old carpenter that lives near Cairns. For all you know I might be a smart @rse 4th year apprentice from Chatswood who once visited North Queensland. Would it matter if Noora was not exactly who or what she says she is? I can't recall anyone else's bona fides being questioned before. We pat ourselves on the back and tell ourselves what a wonderfully tolerant society we are but is that the reality that others see or the myth that we believe?

Is tolerance the word, but intolerance the action?

Mick

Caliban
5th August 2004, 11:56 PM
So gumby
what was the email address? Or have I just wasted 30 minutes for nothing? The brother called Osama was a bit too much for me. Was sceptical from the first posting, but that might have just been the avatar. S/he should have chosen something Crusty like 's or Christopha's one, not something sweet and innocent like Neil's and her /his own.

Gumby
6th August 2004, 12:41 AM
Unfortunately you have wasted 30 mins and sorry, can't say. It would be deleted again if I did, and rightly so. I'm outa here now guys - back to woodwork stuff for me.

gemi_babe
6th August 2004, 12:50 AM
Alot of scepticism going on but I dont know about intolerance.......probably more a reluctance to listen to a young arab woman's perception of our country and some of the issues going on in the world today.

If people in here think Noora's totally off the target with her perception of Australia and the world outside her country then maybe we should do something about it....like sharing OUR perceptions of our own country with her.

On the scepticism issue....I have to admit I was sceptical at first and maybe Noora did give the impression she was interested in woodwork when she first started posting here. Maybe that was the only way she could think of getting a thread going......it was after all the first time she'd participated in a non arab forum.

I suspect by now some people in here think Im a middle aged perv whos gone sex mad because he hasnt seen a woman for 3 weeks and the rest of you probably think Im Al Queda's Australia Press Attache.....might be a good time to sit back for a bit and just watch the postings. Got work to do anyway.
I don't think that of you, I do however think you are VERY Very trusting.
Are you this trusting of meeting people face to face for the first time?
I shudder at the thought if the answer is yes.

kiwigeo
6th August 2004, 01:19 AM
I don't think that of you, I do however think you are VERY Very trusting.
Are you this trusting of meeting people face to face for the first time?
I shudder at the thought if the answer is yes.Hi there Gemi,

I said I was going to just sit back and watch this forum for a bit...so much for plans.

I dont think my postings in this forum constitute a display of too much trust on my part....in real life Im actually not a very trusting person at all. However whether or not I trust a person has no bearing on whether or not I give that person the time of day.

I often have meaningful conversations with people Ive just met and/or people have no trust in whatsoever. There are people I work with in my job who are some of the shadiest characters you could hope to meet but I usually manage to have an intelligent conversation with most of them and quite often get something out of it that benefits me in some way.

Whether I trust Noora or not really isnt an issue. Regardless of whether she really is a 17 year old Omani uni student out to learn something about the world around her or she's just a fake pushing the hardline muslim cause doesnt really bother me....she/he's/it's interesting and just as interesting is the response of people in this forum to her posts.

Okay, definitely the last post for the evening....

kiwigeo
6th August 2004, 01:23 AM
And as for scepticism about a person's real identity, well I don't use my real name online and you just have to take my word that I'm a 42 year old carpenter that lives near Cairns.
Mick
What the????? You really had me fooled there Mick. All this time I thought I was talking to a blue heeler :)

Robert WA
6th August 2004, 01:30 AM
Hovo.

Osama means "Lion Like", so my source tells me.
Noora, or Nura, meant "Light" (as in "at the end of the tunnel"), according to the same sources.
Both are Arabic names.

Adolf was a reasonably common name at one time. I guess it was not unlikely that a 17 year old German, or Austrian, lass in the 1930s or 1940s might have had a brother named Adolf.

I don't quite know what to make of Noora. She may be the real thing, having some fun or looking for information, or she may be a fraud, for some peculiar reason of her own. Whichever, this thread is interesting and amusing.

If the whole thing is a hoax, then who do you guess is the villain?

noora
6th August 2004, 04:38 AM
wait

wait

:(

I'm a girl !! 17 years

i can't be a boy .. bcoz i cant personate :(

if u dont want me 2 stay here i'leave these forums forever :(

i'm not a liar :(

how can i prove that i'm a girl in 17 years ??!!

why u don't want to believe me ??

i said that i want to know

plz dont talk about my brother Osama

he dont know that i contact western forums

i expect that i'll find hot greeting in these forums bur now i'm stunned !!

any way i'll have a rest and leave these forums for about 10 days

i want to consult Osama

noora

kiwigeo
6th August 2004, 06:03 AM
Unfortunately you have wasted 30 mins and sorry, can't say. It would be deleted again if I did, and rightly so. I'm outa here now guys - back to woodwork stuff for me.
Gumby,

The administrators can correct me if Im wrong but I think the email address got deleted from the bottom of Nooras posts because I suggested to her (I think the posting is still up) that it wasnt a good idea to advertise ones private email address on postings in a public forum.

Martin :)

RETIRED
6th August 2004, 07:53 AM
Gumby,

The administrators can correct me if Im wrong but I think the email address got deleted from the bottom of Nooras posts because I suggested to her (I think the posting is still up) that it wasnt a good idea to advertise ones private email address on postings in a public forum.

Martin :)

Martin is right. We had nothing to do with it.

However what Gumby was saying is correct also: Had he put her email address up we would delete it.

Ivan in Oz
6th August 2004, 08:56 AM
Noora,
Stay by all means.
It would be nice to see you on some of the 'other' wood working subjects,
if you have any intrest in wood work.

I find wood work very therapeutic :o
Woody work is even better :eek: :eek:

Even whittling..... :)

Count

AlexS
8th August 2004, 03:10 PM
I say stay.
And once again, we see commonsense coming from Mick.

Grunt
8th August 2004, 06:10 PM
I say stay.
And once again, we see commonsense coming from Mick.

Commonsense on this board. Must be a first.

kiwigeo
8th August 2004, 08:44 PM
Commonsense on this board. Must be a first.
A strange word commonsense.....it really isnt that common.

noora
23rd February 2007, 11:52 AM
Hey there


I missed u

Long TimE no sEe

I"m looking forward to rebuild my relationship with u all guys based on love n peace


I've just came back from lovely Australia




Peace on earth

:)

ss_11000
23rd February 2007, 04:12 PM
welcome back. found out much about woodwork since you last posted???
:)

Baz
23rd February 2007, 07:48 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Cheers
Barry

Gumby
23rd February 2007, 07:56 PM
Where's a Mod when you need one :rolleyes:


:cool:

Wood Butcher
23rd February 2007, 08:02 PM
Where's a Mod when you need one :rolleyes:
Watching in the background as always:mods:

Groggy
23rd February 2007, 08:07 PM
We're here, if you read the previous thread, why do you need us? Read this please (http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showpost.php?p=74461&postcount=46). You guys did do a bit of reading, didn't you? You wouldn't go off half cocked or anything? .....:rolleyes:

Gumby
23rd February 2007, 08:11 PM
You wouldn't go off half cocked or anything? .....:rolleyes:

half cocked ?

never.

but full..........well, sometimes :rolleyes:

Groggy
23rd February 2007, 08:11 PM
Oh yes, nearly forgot, welcome back noora!

silentC
26th February 2007, 08:29 AM
If you're interested in doing a bit of reading, try this:

http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=11512

Even though the thread is gone, some of us still remember what that was all about :wink:

craigb
26th February 2007, 08:39 AM
I miss Paper Artist.

silentC
26th February 2007, 08:45 AM
Nah, he was overated :p

TassieKiwi
26th February 2007, 10:56 AM
Is Prince Charles a moderator yet?

ozwinner
26th February 2007, 05:08 PM
Is Prince Charles a moderator yet?

Nah, but his best mate is an Admin..

Al :2tsup:

dadpad
27th February 2007, 01:18 AM
Noora tell us about your trip to Australia. what towns and cities did you see. show us some of your photos.

Can you post some pictures of trees in Oman? when i think of Oman I think there are mostly palm trees. They are not so good for woodworking.