Can Swerving Avoid Speed Camera Capture?

[Metal Head]

Hi,

I would be interested to know if deviating off a relatively straight line or swerving can avoid speed camera capture leading to a fine? Is it possible to get a speeding fine going around a bend (or bends aka going down a steep hill/mountain)?

If you have seen a blue car swerving all over the place in the northern suburbs of Melbourne then it was me and so far I have have avoided a fine:2tsup::doh: Maybe the police personnel that have tried to catch me, gave up when they got sick or too dizzy:D.

Cheers
MH

[rsser]

Never seen a speed camera set up on a bend.

As for weaving, I doubt it. Those fixed cameras are pretty schmick. Cost $50k I'm told.

[Waldo]

If you can hook your car sideways as you go through the camera that might work. :2tsup:

And remember to wave to the camera as you go through.

20 years or so now in Brisbane, there used to be a camera set up on the zebra crossing at Margaret & Eagle Streets to catch jaywalkers. One day going to where the my Dad's work 4x4 was parked we crossed the crossing, and knowing about the camera we jay walked and waved to the camera as we set it off. We did this about 2-3 times. :U

[Gingermick]

the best way to avoid the sneaky bastewards is to drive at or below the speed limit and don't go through red lights.

[munruben]

Just take your number plates off. :)

[Sturdee]

I would be interested to know if deviating off a relatively straight line or swerving can avoid speed camera capture leading to a fine?

No and you could also be fined for the other traffic offences that you would be committing eg failure to indicate if you swerve into another lane and/or dangerous driving.





Is it possible to get a speeding fine going around a bend (or bends aka going down a steep hill/mountain)?


Yes, and if speeding down a steep hill etc they will also throw in the dangerous driving charge.


Just learn to obey the road rules and stop speeding.:((


Peter.

[FRB Design]

Stupid enough to speed stupid enough to get caught :doh:

[wheelinround]

Having watched one of the after news current affairs programs recently, their is a fellow out to prove that speed cameras mounted on poles and frames that allow vibration causes them to be out. This is fact any device such as this must remain steady. just look at USA missile launches :D.

If a vibrating weaving body is receiving the signal and it bounces back then surely it can't be accurate, such as a truck trailer which is always lurching., road vibration shape of vehicle if a bird flys through which has a metal band on it same thing.

Then there is camera & computer malfunction shutter lag and time delay, not to mention clock accuracy settings.

[Metal Head]

Hi,

Thanks for the replies. The reason I asked was that I read a few weeks ago that when the cameras that are set up either set up in or outside a car are done within certain parameters. Yet if a car doesn't travel along the road within the width of a marked lane (as most do) then the angle projection is incorrect thus the speed can be deceived into giving a false reading.

So what makes an hand held one deemed as more accurate - surely a nervous (or ) cop shaking would distort a true reading?

What's your opinion?

Cheers
MH

[joe greiner]

You can safely assume that setup errors and false readings operate in YOUR favour, and under-report violations. So don't count on that as a get-out-of-jail card, even if it's a false assumption.

Cops I've discussed this with admit they donate 6 units of measurement (mph, kph) before citation; 3 for your speedo error, and 3 for theirs. Bathroom scales are similarly out of precision.

Removing your number plates is a separate violation.

What's the rush? To wait longer at the next traffic light? To be the guest of honour at the cemetery?

Cheers,
Joe

[artme]

I think Oz and US enforcement authorities wout have a field day - every day - here in Brasil. Technically very good drivers but they have absolutely no regard for the rules of the road at all.

Speeding, dangerous overtakinking, not stopping at pedestrian crossings, through red lights, talking on the mobile. You name, it they do it all the bloody time. I live in a state of perpetual terror.

[Ellemcbeast]

Metalhead,

If vibration, swerving, movement, etc negates accurate speed cameras, how come they can be used in mobile police cars???

[Gingermick]

I wouldn't think something shaking or wobbling with velocity of maybe 50 metres per second will make much difference to a wave travelling at a couple of hundred million metres per second.

[corbs]

Maybe if you swerve into the pole that is holding the camera? Or you could try this (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw-act/speed-camera-shot-ablaze/story-e6freuzi-1111115665457), seems they aren't very popular:doh:

[rrobor]

Gingermick has it spot on. the beam that bounced off your car is traveling at thousands of kilometers a second so your little wobbly fit isnt noticed. As to poles shaking, same thing, The radar will be in the Gigaherts range thats 10 to the power 9 KM per second, a trucks vibrations at that speed will not mean one thing. So in front of Milud, I wouldnt try to get off with that, though he may knock off a few bucks for giving him a laugh.

[kiwigeo]

Worrying that people who are too stupid to work this out are in charge of a motor vehicle.


the best way to avoid the sneaky bastewards is to drive at or below the speed limit and don't go through red lights.

[Waldo]

A Creative Director I worked with many years ago, on a shoot on a leafy Sydney street on the North Shore prior to the photo shoot had all the parking meters cut off with an angle grinder at ground level. (no he didn't have council permission :U )

Maybe the same approach could be applied to speed cameras. :D

[ian]

A Creative Director I worked with many years ago, on a shoot on a leafy Sydney street on the North Shore prior to the photo shoot had all the parking meters cut off with an angle grinder at ground level. (no he didn't have council permission :U )

Maybe the same approach could be applied to speed cameras. :Dexcept arround here the spped cameras all seem to be monitored by one or two surveilance cameras


personally, I rather like Rowan Atkins approach in "Johnny English"

[rrich]

If the speed camera is on a pole, it may be possible to mount your number plates at a 45° angle to the horizontal. From ground level, it would be possible for the authorities to read your number plate, it would be rather difficult for the camera to do the same. However you might get nicked for not having illuminated number plates at night.

It would be easy to bend aluminium bar stock into a triangle mounting bracket for your number plate.

[jimbur]

I imagine there are two theories at work here:

The first is that swerving or changing direction means the beam won't get back to the gadget. As earlier answers have pointed out, you are talking speed of light here. Otherwise aircraft would keep dropping off the screen every time they changed direction.

The second is that changing your path means you have a lesser actual speed along the line of the road probably wouldn't work either for the same reason - you can't keep a straight line deviation long enough. Roads are only so wide.

If you really want to dodge the fines yet insist on speeding you'd have to contact someone in the defence industries and get some radar absorbent paint:D

Cheers,
Jim

[tea lady]

Yesterday, on my way to getting lost, I saw a police car flashing and thought "gee that's weird. Usually its other cars flashing when there is a police car". Later I worked out that the flashing means that their speed camera has gone off, as one flashed at me.:C In the dark, on a bend, going round a corner.:rolleyes: In the second instance the police car was stationary but on the middle nature strip in the pitch black. Scared the bejeezus out of me when it flashed in my eyes. Could of caused an accident I reckon.:rolleyes: (In my defense, I was trying to get past some numb-skull in front that was doing wierd maneuvers. Best to get past those. Concentration on doing that rather than the speed and it crept up. :C )

[rrobor]

Keep that up tea lady and you are going to have a short spell sitting home drinking what Im sure is a lovely brew. As to the guy altering number plates, they are fitted to conform to specs. Outside that and Mr Plod will feel your collar. People have tried all sorts from special paints, to light sensers that trigger a flash across the numberplate to over expose the camera. Some work but if you are caught, its up in front of Milud not just a spot fine. As Dirty Harry said. "Do you feel lucky punk".

[Gingermick]

Concentration on doing that rather than the speed and it crept up. :C )

That's the best argument against cameras. You need to concentrate on the road not your speedo.

[rrobor]

Cant let you off with that Gingermick. Being a long time fan of Monty Python, I can tell you, you can get a machine that goes beep when you are heavy on the foot.

[jimbur]

Cant let you off with that Gingermick. Being a long time fan of Monty Python, I can tell you, you can get a machine that goes beep when you are heavy on the foot.

my commodore does that - irritating but useful
Jim

[Chris Parks]

The Poms make a national sport of destroyng speed cameras......

http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm

[jimbur]

The Poms make a national sport of destroyng speed cameras......

http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm

Don't know if it's true but an English bloke told me they don't have hidden speed cameras - against human rights or something.
Another digression - do carbon fibre bodied cars give a 'good' enough signal to radar traps?
Jim

[madmix]

Heavy braking works fine.............they cant see for the smoke.
only problem is a set of tyres costs more than the fine.

cheers mick

[Chris Parks]

Heavy braking works fine.............they cant see for the smoke.
only problem is a set of tyres costs more than the fine.

cheers mick

From the funniest thing I ever saw department. Bloke sees a red light camera just after he has decided that the red light means go harder. It was a down hill left hander so he hits the picks really hard, locks everything up and it gets sideways and rolls after hitting the centre island and takes one of the traffic lights out. The fine would have been cheaper methinks!!