floods spa and deck when wet

[gazoberg]

hey guys, ive just finished building a deck in yellow balua which is very close to my pool (particularly proud of my 200mm hard wood posts supporting the roof, looks great !) Im thinking of finishing the deck with floods spa and deck but im concerned over the 'slippy when wet' factor of an acrylic stain compared with an oil based stain.

Has anyone used this product near a pool and can comment on the grip/slip factor.

cheers Gary

[BobAblob]

Gaz, I am half way through my pool deck project - also belau.
I have Spa n Deck on my veranda - pleased with result, but it is DANGEROUS when wet. Very very slippery.
I had intended for Spa n Deck around pool, but not now. Spoke with Flood about the issue, they say that all timber finishes are slippery when wet (hmmm!). They also said they are about 12 months off releasing a new waterbased acrylic polymer with "anti-slip" properties. Sorry can't wait that long.

Currently thinking Lanotec Timber Seal Plus - maybe someone can comment on that choice?
Cheers Blobby

[Lumnock]

Gaz, I am half way through my pool deck project - also belau.
I have Spa n Deck on my veranda - pleased with result, but it is DANGEROUS when wet. Very very slippery.
I had intended for Spa n Deck around pool, but not now. Spoke with Flood about the issue, they say that all timber finishes are slippery when wet (hmmm!). They also said they are about 12 months off releasing a new waterbased acrylic polymer with "anti-slip" properties. Sorry can't wait that long.

Currently thinking Lanotec Timber Seal Plus - maybe someone can comment on that choice?
Cheers Blobby

Sikkens has a timber deck finish called Cetol Deck Plus which has a non-slip additive already mixed through which gives it a nice slightly chalky non-slip finish (your local Bunnies should have a sample board for you to feel), or Integrain has a non-slip additive designed for their stains and oils that you can mix through to give a similar non-slip finish. If you still have left over spa & deck, it might be worth trying a test piece out on an offcut to see how it goes.

[Bleedin Thumb]

?????Since when is SpaNDeck slippery when wet? Its water based acrylic that is totally absorbed into the timber. Flood Co is correct, the slip factor is due to the timber surface not the finish (in SpaNDecks case.)

Sikkens Cetol on the other hand, along with any other timber product that forms a membrane will become slippery - that is why you need the anti slip additive, however keep away from those products on horizontal wear surfaces...the maintenance is hell.

If you are really worried you should lay the decking reed face up...or hit your decking with a belt sander with 120 grit before you finish it.

[BobAblob]

SpaNDeck does form a very thin membrane, maybe only 1 micron thick ?? Flood Co advised that the film thickness / tension is not sufficient to hold the "grit" on to the timber surface when using typical non-slip additives. Result -grit breaks off and the surface coating will be compromised, allowing the weather in.
Maybe I can get away with letting my deck bleed for 12 to 18 months whilst waiting for the new Flood product???

[zanclodon]

I haven't found the Spa n Deck at all slippery on my own verandah or on friends' ones. It must depend on the type of timber or the sanding finish. The Sikkens on the other hand is slippery as ice when wet...